Sell "as is" or repair before selling

Sambonjo · 03-03-2016, 06:19 PM

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Hey all

The time has come to sell my 2011 335 Xdrive. I replaced the clutch 10,000km with a spec stage 2 and it was great until my wife glazed it over on a long hill with stop and go. Now, on cold start the pedal feels fine but after a half hour or so of city driving the pedal goes all mushy and engagement point is right at the top of the pedal in first gear.

My question is, would you guys recommend replacing the clutch before selling, or selling the car "as is" WITH a disclaimer that the clutch needs replacement. I'm not trying to dump a bad clutch on an unsuspecting buyer. Obviously this would command a lower price but I'm thinking it would still be more than what I'd get on a dealer trade in. Opinions welcome Thanks!

ChipXpert · 03-03-2016, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sambonjo

Hey all

The time has come to sell my 2011 335 Xdrive. I replaced the clutch 10,000km with a spec stage 2 and it was great until my wife glazed it over on a long hill with stop and go. Now, on cold start the pedal feels fine but after a half hour or so of city driving the pedal goes all mushy and engagement point is right at the top of the pedal in first gear.

My question is, would you guys recommend replacing the clutch before selling, or selling the car "as is" WITH a disclaimer that the clutch needs replacement. I'm not trying to dump a bad clutch on an unsuspecting buyer. Obviously this would command a lower price but I'm thinking it would still be more than what I'd get on a dealer trade in. Opinions welcome Thanks!

Mushy pedal, bad engagement? Your slave cylinder probably is bad. Sounds like it won't hold required pressure to the throwout bearing.
Pedal feel has little to do with glazed disk or flywheel.

Miller335 · 03-03-2016, 06:46 PM

Unless we're talking about a $1k+ plus repair on a $1k car always fix before selling.

Wires · 03-03-2016, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by techwhiz

Mushy pedal, bad engagement? Your slave cylinder probably is bad. Sounds like it won't hold required pressure to the throwout bearing.
Pedal feel has little to do with glazed disk or flywheel.

+1 Glazed clutch will "chatter" during engagement/disengagement. So you can't get a smooth shift. If it's mushy, it sounds like the slave cylinder.

Unless you're just trying to blame the wife for a reason to replace the car. Perfectly fine as well.

Welcome to NBA Jam · 03-03-2016, 07:54 PM

You can recoup that cost from repairing it. A brand new clutch in a manual vehicle for sale is about as good, or better, than new tires.

StereoSteve · 03-04-2016, 07:27 AM

My father-in-law works at a dealership. He recommends to just turn it in. If you're going private sell, then I'd fix it to get more money out of it.

wilbur_the_goose · 03-04-2016, 07:30 AM

If you're doing a trade-in, don't repair it. The dealer (for any brand) can fix it for a lot less $$ than you can.

NGEE · 03-04-2016, 07:35 AM

That car is a ticking time-bomb. Reduce the price and dump it immediately.

PM me.

ATLIEN · 03-04-2016, 09:41 AM

Just trade it in. Keep it moving. We will hear about the issue when the next buyer gets it and finds their way here.

El Cheapo Loco · 03-04-2016, 10:41 AM

It doesn't show up until after an hour of driving, which means it won't show up during the test drive. So what's the problem here?

unrealii · 03-04-2016, 11:19 AM

If you are trading it in, I wouldn't bother.

If you are selling it to a private party, do this:
1) Find out what your highest trade in price is.
2) Determine private party value.
3) 2 - 1 is your wiggle room

If a private party is willing to buy the car as is, then let them. If a private party tries to beat you down past the value in 1, you can say you will get more for trade in and anchor your price floor. At the end of the day, if you have to spend $1000 to get $1,100 more on your car, I wouldn't bother for such a small increase.

Nitrousbird · 03-04-2016, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by El Cheapo Loco

It doesn't show up until after an hour of driving, which means it won't show up during the test drive. So what's the problem here?

The man has a point...

paco89 · 03-04-2016, 02:47 PM

Your clutch disk should be fine, your problem may only be the slave cylinder, have it checked out by an indy shop if you are not mechanically inclined. They may save you a couple hundred dollars before you replace the whole clutch for no reason.

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Sambonjo Private First Class 20 Rep 115 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 335 Xdrive 6MT Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Calgary iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335 Xdrive [0.00]	Sell "as is" or repair before selling Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Hey all The time has come to sell my 2011 335 Xdrive. I replaced the clutch 10,000km with a spec stage 2 and it was great until my wife glazed it over on a long hill with stop and go. Now, on cold start the pedal feels fine but after a half hour or so of city driving the pedal goes all mushy and engagement point is right at the top of the pedal in first gear. My question is, would you guys recommend replacing the clutch before selling, or selling the car "as is" WITH a disclaimer that the clutch needs replacement. I'm not trying to dump a bad clutch on an unsuspecting buyer. Obviously this would command a lower price but I'm thinking it would still be more than what I'd get on a dealer trade in. Opinions welcome Thanks!
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Miller335 Colonel 298 Rep 2,189 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	Unless we're talking about a $1k+ plus repair on a $1k car always fix before selling. __________________ 2007 E92 335 6MT w/335is clutch FBO MHD E60 Wedge map 49k miles
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Welcome to NBA Jam Is it the shoes!? 3906 Rep 5,111 Posts Drives: (Sold) 2011 E92 335i ZMP 6MT Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (1)	You can recoup that cost from repairing it. A brand new clutch in a manual vehicle for sale is about as good, or better, than new tires.
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StereoSteve Private First Class 10 Rep 112 Posts Drives: 07 E92 / 86 K75 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	My father-in-law works at a dealership. He recommends to just turn it in. If you're going private sell, then I'd fix it to get more money out of it.
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wilbur_the_goose Major 397 Rep 1,283 Posts Drives: 2023 G30(530i Made in Austria Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Metro Philly iTrader: (0)	If you're doing a trade-in, don't repair it. The dealer (for any brand) can fix it for a lot less $$ than you can.
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NGEE Fuck it dude, let's go bowling. 948 Rep 2,502 Posts Drives: 1M Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Not Massachusetts iTrader: (0)	That car is a ticking time-bomb. Reduce the price and dump it immediately. PM me. __________________ 1M. Previously: '13 135is; '07 E90 335i; '02 325i; '99 Z3; '98 328is; '87 L6; '77 320i
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ATLIEN Captain 681 Rep 836 Posts Drives: 08 335i & 11 M3 ZCP Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Greenville, SC iTrader: (0)	Just trade it in. Keep it moving. We will hear about the issue when the next buyer gets it and finds their way here.
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El Cheapo Loco douchebaggo 189 Rep 971 Posts Drives: stick Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	It doesn't show up until after an hour of driving, which means it won't show up during the test drive. So what's the problem here?
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unrealii Captain 77 Rep 630 Posts Drives: '09 335 E93 6MT Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Socal iTrader: (3) Garage List 2002 Toyota 4Runner [0.00] 2009 BMW 335I [10.00]	If you are trading it in, I wouldn't bother. If you are selling it to a private party, do this: 1) Find out what your highest trade in price is. 2) Determine private party value. 3) 2 - 1 is your wiggle room If a private party is willing to buy the car as is, then let them. If a private party tries to beat you down past the value in 1, you can say you will get more for trade in and anchor your price floor. At the end of the day, if you have to spend $1000 to get $1,100 more on your car, I wouldn't bother for such a small increase.
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paco89 Captain 147 Rep 726 Posts Drives: 2006 325xi Arktis Metallic Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Minnesota iTrader: (0)	Your clutch disk should be fine, your problem may only be the slave cylinder, have it checked out by an indy shop if you are not mechanically inclined. They may save you a couple hundred dollars before you replace the whole clutch for no reason. __________________ 2006 Bmw 325xi VMR V715/OE lip/Redlines/Zsp Springs 1999 Eclipse Spyder Gst 16g/264cams/550cc/255lph/corbeau seats/Comp Stage 4 Clutch/ECUflash etc...
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