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Car&Driver 2011 Lightning Lap @ VIR results are in for M3, 335i, Z4, 135i
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12-31-2010, 09:38 AM | #67 |
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The cars that are being compared are for the most part showroom stock. Certain cars will have advantages over other at particular tracks.
For example if you took two cars and had the same driver drive them on two different tracks one car might be faster on one track and slower on the other. A track like Lime Rock will favor a car that has relatively neutral steering and good cornering grip while at a track like Moroso (West Palm Beach) braking and acceration would be more of a factor. I think that the lighning lap is a good indication of relative performance but when two cars are within a fraction of a second of each other it is fairly safe to assume that the cars have similar performance. CA
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12-31-2010, 10:52 AM | #70 | |
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Its amazing that Lexus listened to drivers and fixed most complains. I wouldn't be surprised if my next car will be 2011 IS-F. Fast....check, perfect handling....check, LSD..check, good fuel economy...check, reliable....check, tranny is questionable, but also pretty sophisticated |
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12-31-2010, 11:09 AM | #72 | |
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I'd be interested to see how pre lci vs lci 335 compares - meaning - no elsd vs elsd. |
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The IS-F is impressive.
I never would of expected them to be neck to neck with the M3. Now the IS-F is faster on the drag strip and neck to neck on the track with the M3. |
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Thanks, we did have a blast. We were lucky to have such great weather. Best part of all: It was ~free~ (except of course, for gas, tire wear etc. ). HPR gave the day to its 2010 customers as a Christmas gift and as a thank you for a successful year. This was the track's second year in business. As for coilovers, I can attest that they didn't make as much a difference than a change in tires did. BTW, I'm not here to bash Audi - I think they're great cars, nor am I posting to prove my driving prowess - I think I'm average, I'm only posting to show that the xi isn't a dog on the track. Cheers.
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That's forza1976 in the first three vids, look below that.
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RE: Lexus IS-F
Lexus' message to BMW: time to wake up!
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12-31-2010, 02:06 PM | #81 | |
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I think you may still prefer the M3 after you drive the IS-F. The transmission seems to be ALWAYS shifting, searching for the right gear.
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12-31-2010, 03:26 PM | #84 |
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The IS-F is not a dual clutch sequential manual nor single clutch sequential manual. It is a traditional automatic with 8-speeds. Which I think is a bit over kill as 7 speed is more then enough.
None the less one has to give big to Lexus for fixing the issues with the IS-F and bringing it more in line with the top performance machines in its class.
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