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05-08-2009, 01:36 PM | #89 |
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05-08-2009, 01:56 PM | #90 |
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are you looking at having your own Meth kit made or using a pre-existing kit. I was/am looking at the Aquamist HFS-6......pretty serious piece there. the user manual : http://www.aquamist.co.uk/HFS6/HFS-6-3w.pdf
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in case u missed it
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ahh, is that confirmed? what are they using?
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05-08-2009, 02:14 PM | #93 |
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sorry i reposted that for Shiv to answer, it since he never confirmed it.
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05-08-2009, 10:29 PM | #94 |
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any idea what a car with out an upgraded intercooler would be able to do ? I know you mentioned once that meth is a better upgrade than a new intercooler because it cools the intake charge soooooo well. I think we should test this . Send me the kit.... lol..
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Shiv.... I have an upgraded intercooler + DCI, but stock exhaust and stock downpipes. Therefore by definition, I am a stage 1 map. At stage 1 with UT=72%, my procede datalogs show I am making between 13-14 psi, which I believe is the target boost for a stage 1 car. The car feels good at this setting, so would there be much logic in running higher boost settings at this point ? It seems to me that the Procede and the DME have compensated for the upgraded VK intercooler so I don't think any further adjustments will yield improvements. In fact I find the car gets more inconsistent as I extend outside of the recommendations. |
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05-09-2009, 04:52 PM | #98 |
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Not as smooth and fluid in power delivery and occasionally some throttle closure.
When the tune is set at recommended settings, it doesn't feel like a turbo.....feels more like a normally aspirated V8. All I really feel is seamless TORQUE! As I get outside of the recommended settings, I start to feel the boost a lot more and it also randomly starts to display those symptoms. |
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Wow. Lucky you. I feel lag, especially at <3000 rpms.
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05-12-2009, 12:52 AM | #102 |
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JB3 : So, shiv... I see that the JB3 guys pushed their tune pretty far and put up similar (ballpark) numbers without meth. So, I'm wondering what you could do with the meth kit if you just ran a lot more alcohol through it, and used it more as a fueling supplement rather than an IAT regulator. Would you consider doing a balls-out dyno-queen run pushing for more power? I mean, if the JB guys could hit around 440 without meth, you should be able to run the meth kit not far short of 500 if you were just as aggressive, right? -scheherazade |
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05-12-2009, 01:12 AM | #103 |
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Its jsut a back and forth game between the tuners.. Soon we will see new dynos similar to this one from Shiv without the use of meth... and then back and forth. Each tuner is just pushing the envelope higher and higher. Now that Shiv knows its possible to achieve those #s without meth, I'm sure he is working on that right now. But you also have to remember all dynos read differently so.
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So it's really 104 vs 91+meth
- 104 can handle higher IAT's without caring as much. - meth lowers IAT's so 91 can run with the same boost as 104 does So, let's say you're willing to run 104, how much of a benefit is meth, beyond the slightly denser air on intake? It should slightly supplement fueling, correct? - So slightly more air, and slightly more fuel. I'm really just wondering what is the absolute impact on meth, balls-out vs balls-out. I.E. run 104, set boost to a matching (aggresive) level, and compare what meth gives you. I mean this as a curiosity, not as a 'prove to me that meth is good'. I'm really just curious about how much 'go' you can get out of this thing. Or is the 5 or so whp benefit really the difference when maxxed out high-octane vs high-octane? (I know it's not meant for high-octane vs high-octane) -scheherazade |
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05-12-2009, 10:40 AM | #108 |
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The other major benefits that you're missing is that meth will last longer (because you're only using it when you want) and be farrrrrr cheaper than running 104 all the time.
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05-12-2009, 10:55 AM | #109 | |
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The cooling is a benefit, but there seems to be an octane increase as well. |
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