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07-29-2011, 05:16 AM | #23 | |
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I understand how people harp back to the senna era and quite right the man was a genius. As Mega posted the sport has become so technically advanced you've got to admire these guys for what they do over 90mins. As for crashes, the sport couldn't have carried on the way it had after Sennas death. Safety must be paramount when your traveling at speeds in excess of 150 mph. Don't think Moss should ever argue the sports too safe now. If you want crashes watch the wrc kubica has first hand experience of this! |
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07-29-2011, 05:18 AM | #24 |
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Either way. This is an evolution of the topic.
The fact is News Corp are cants and this decision is terrible for everyone but Ecclestone's super model wife when she inherits his billions.
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07-29-2011, 05:18 AM | #25 | |
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Button struggles cuz the car is designed around Hamilton. Hamilton drove very well in Germany. He also has driven like a tool this year at times.
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07-29-2011, 05:20 AM | #26 | |
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07-29-2011, 05:44 AM | #27 |
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I get Sky Sports 1, 2, and 3 on Virgin media for £19 per month so I don't know where your £30 comes from Mega.
The BBC had exclusive coverage until 2013 but have often been criticised for paying way too much for it so going down to half the races from 2012 means they have got some money back, clearly. But it does mean that, for the first time, the Formula 1 season will not be entirely available on free to air TV and that is diabolical. I thought F1 was one of the ring fenced activities that had to be available on free to air television. On the other hand, Sky has over 10 million subscribers so no longer does a small minority get to see the races. I hate that Sky charges for you to watch programmes that, previously, were available on free to air TV and then sticks the knife in by having even longer and more banal advertising as well. They make money twice! I can't stand to watch a programme on Sky 1 or 2 live, I always record it so I can zip through the brain wash tedium. Oh, and a buck says there will be adverts during the race, after all, ITV got away with it. |
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07-29-2011, 06:01 AM | #28 |
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I detest the License fee so all this talk about free to air is complete bollox imho.
Not that bothered that SKY have it cause I pay them for the Premier league so another one of my fave sports only adds VFM to my SKY Sub assuming prices don't go up of course. Someone has to pay F1 for coverage, so either it is ITV with loads of commercials, BBC with INCREASED License fees to pay for it in the first place or proper PPV subs. Anyone remember the F1 digital channel a few years back btw. |
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07-29-2011, 06:21 AM | #29 | |
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Reason the Mclarens designed round Hamilton is simply because he's a better driver than Button. Buttons a good number 2 driver. I agree Hamiltons made some crazy moves this season but if you take that out of his driving style he wouldn't be half the driver he is. I love his arrogance and do or die driving style... there isn't enough drivers like him in the championship. Kobyashi is another guy who I admire when he's cars setup well these guys make the sport what it is. Take these guys out of the sport and creepy could have a point about boring. As for going off subject, maybe we should start an F1 thread on here for debate after race weekend ....seems like there's enough interest? |
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07-29-2011, 06:26 AM | #30 |
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Don't get me wrong, I watch plenty of motorsport (WRC, BTCC, WTCC etc), I have just found F1 to be a little dull since Schumacher started dominating, maybe thats what turned me off
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07-29-2011, 06:40 AM | #31 |
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I'm devastated, watched f1 with my dad for as long as I can remember always on bbc or itv.
I thought the move to 4 cylinder engines in 2012/13 was bad enough, now this. Gutted and there is no way I'm paying for that shitty sky subscription. Wasting a life watching bullshit programs full of adverts. |
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07-29-2011, 08:52 AM | #32 | |
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Thank god for the BBC. Last edited by Boyd1963; 07-29-2011 at 08:57 AM.. |
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07-29-2011, 08:55 AM | #33 | |
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Folks I know its Shit moving to sky but there's ways round giving Murdoch your money. Half the races are still on the bbc and for the rest go for a few Sunday afternoon pints in your local. I realise watching it in a pub the landlord pays a subscription but they always would have anyway. Gives you an excuse to get away from the missus for a few hours.....every cloud has a silver lining |
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07-29-2011, 08:57 AM | #34 | |
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Not happy just been a realist mate. If I did not have to pay 150 quid a year for a service I hardly use and be able to put that towards my SKY subs then even better I say. It IS MY CHOICE to pay SKY money but I have NO CHOICE when it comes the BBC. Who said Communism is dead. Obviously I am not dancing around in joy giving SKY so much a month BUT when ITV Digital went belly up it was Crown Castle who set Freeview up not JUST Auntie Beeb. Who are they you ask? Er BBC and SKY. Boom boom. Hey ho. |
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07-29-2011, 09:07 AM | #35 | |
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Long live the revolution! |
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07-29-2011, 09:14 AM | #36 | |
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Having recently watched Senna the documentary, the sigh of the man on the ragged edge changing gears manually, is just awesome. But do you really want to see an F1 driver die on the track again? Although the race has alot to do with the driver still. There is no room for them to be heros anymore though. Only a massive margin for them to cock up. Have you seen the incar footage recently, they are fiddling with settings after almost every corner. Alot of the time this gets lost as the commentators focus on what they think is important and have info about, ie tires and the degradation. Also dont think the tire supplier would be happy if they didnt mention it every 10 seconds. I wish the GT4 races where better televised. Thats real racing, all cars different yet equalised. Pure driver skill |
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07-29-2011, 09:18 AM | #37 |
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Oh an Fuck sky one.
Lewis Hamilton racing for a british team living in swizerland should pay the money the sport puts in his pocket to the BBC to fund the televising of the races. Oh and while on the topic. We need a London F1± |
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07-29-2011, 09:31 AM | #38 | |
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Only have my TV from SKY would not give them any more money for other services so I am not exactly a SKY fanboy but I do like my Sport and willing to pay for what I want to watch. The BBC just cannot compete any more and thus they should just give in and pack up and let me be £150 odd better off. Offer themselves as a 'premium' sub service to those who STILL value them cause I don't anymore. Not a revolution as such more of an evolution in a way. Not great but hey it's the way it is nowadays. |
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07-29-2011, 09:36 AM | #39 |
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Considering that you pay twice as much for commercial terrestrial TV as you do the BBC license fee (the ads have to be paid for and it sure as hell isn't the advertiser but Joe Punter, reflected in the selling price), and considering that Joe Punter pays through his purchases for products advertised on Sky, even if he doesn't have Sky, and then Sky charge you another massive slab on top of that, the BBC is an absolute bargain!
No effing interminable adverts every eight minutes, a country wide network of local and national radio stations, a brilliant web site, the red button, iPlayer, The World Service, two HD channels and two non-HD. The BBC offers a lot wider variety of services than anyone else. I just wish their programming would improve and for people to stop saying that commercial terrestrial TV is "free". It isn't. |
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07-29-2011, 09:42 AM | #40 |
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Here's an example my dad has freesat, in theory he could have TOTALLY FREE TO AIR TV if the BBC was a PPV service, as then the ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 channels would at least be some of the commercial stations that are FTA not taking into account the current freesat line up. End of. That to me is a proper definition of Free To Air TV. Whether it is showing Sporting events or not. Yet cause the BBC channels are on there then he has to buy a TV License.
TV Licenses are like the old Communist party membership books, every home has to have one. |
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07-29-2011, 09:46 AM | #41 | |
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In the olden days because ITV and the BBC were limited to fairly modest budgets the sporting bodies had to be happy with what they got. However because Sky could charge a subscription they could offer much more than the terrestrial channels and steal away the sport which is exactly what has happened. So now the British public are giving money to ars*holes like the Glazers! (because there was so much money swilling around foreign investors decided they wanted a slice of the action) In the same way I now pay a company in Singapore for my tap water!!!! |
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07-29-2011, 09:50 AM | #42 | |
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07-29-2011, 09:58 AM | #43 | |
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07-29-2011, 09:58 AM | #44 | |
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So my TV License fee pays ITV and Channel 5 also? Know that Channel 4 got government funding for a while but not sure that is the case now. BBC to me just offer Labour spin bias news, totally anti Man Utd in Sports coverage (Hansen and Lawro help with that) and celebrate a world radio service that I cannot listen too cause I live in the UK. Their TV BBC World news service is also rubbish compared to SKY News international service also and most hotels show this now instead. Their programs are mostly funded by outside firms and watching repeats of Top Gear on Dave proves that I could watch BBC programs and put up with ads now and then. Ironically I pay my fee quarterly just in case if it goes then I want have to wait for too much of a rebate, so they actually get more money out of me via that payment method. |
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