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11-27-2012, 11:01 AM | #23 | |
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I agree with you about canceling the 1/2 mile run - no use running if you're not comfortable.
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11-27-2012, 11:04 AM | #24 |
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Damn pop fly LOL oh well thanks DD, hey let me know for the IC buy Im in!!
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11-27-2012, 07:41 PM | #25 | |
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11-28-2012, 04:42 AM | #26 |
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Thanks amigos I decided that my mechanic do the driving we are very close friends and he has alaways helped me, that said Im sad I cant but not STUPID, I realized that I am partially disabled to drive at those speeds and reaction times are WAYY slow. I will post videos of the event eventually so you can see the MONSTER run!! hopefully by Monday or tuesday ok
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12-05-2012, 05:08 PM | #27 |
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Just touched base with Nick at Wagner, still waiting arrival of the shipment. The home base in Germany only shipped him 20 units, so I think this shipment should sell pretty quickly. Only getting 20 units is probably going to tie his hands on a GB, but I'll let him address that when he has units to sell.
I guess I'm not really surprised that Germany kept 80 units of the 100 produced, since the market for this product in Europe should presumably be much larger than the market over here.
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12-06-2012, 07:36 AM | #28 |
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I will PM nick and see ok
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12-06-2012, 04:45 PM | #30 | |
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12-07-2012, 04:30 AM | #31 |
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duh Germany !!!
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12-07-2012, 08:09 AM | #32 |
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Sent Carsten an e-mail yesterday inquiring as to the status of the flow tests - still waiting for a reply. I would be truely shocked if they released this IC without supporting data to better demonstrate the benefits.
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12-07-2012, 08:16 AM | #33 |
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Chris last time carsten told me they were going to do a Bench Flow after they returned from SEMA
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Yep he told me they were working to conduct the test and would make data available. He said it would take approx 6 weeks - that was nearly 6 weeks ago. I just sent him an email yesterday so hope t hear back today.
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12-07-2012, 09:08 AM | #35 |
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to be honest w you as far as I am concerned with the temp. readings comparo's that DOC got with stock versus Wagner a decrease in cooler air in excess of 23 degrees below OEM IC, Im sold and no testing were performed before that,PRICELESS!!!
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12-11-2012, 07:23 AM | #37 |
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I received a reply from Carsten Wagner and apparently they still have not performed any bench flow testing. Something about lack of power to their equipment??? Hmmmm...
I for one am not going to jump the gun and replace my stock IC for one that may or may not yield any benefit until I see some comprehensive testing from Wagner and or very detailed before and after data logging performed by an owner. Last edited by cssnms; 12-11-2012 at 08:03 AM.. |
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12-11-2012, 10:30 AM | #38 |
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Chris you're sounding like someone i know from the fest!! LOL I understand your plight but damn 23 degrees below what OEM IC marked that alone tells you something is up. Bur now as I reread your link I also have some quirps about it, I love the way the IC looks , almost as OEM rather than the other FRANKENSTEINS outthere, true be it some data would be appreciated though, i.e. dyno, temps etc etc!!
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12-11-2012, 11:19 AM | #39 | |
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Axel there has not been anywhere close to enough testing to substantiate those results are accurate, let alone consistent and representative of the benefits to be expected across the use spectrum with or without a tune. In fact it is quite plausible to assume (without data to support otherwise) there is no benefit to be gained from a Wagner IC vs OEM or perhaps just the opposite, if the pressure drop proves to be to dramatic horsepower is actually lossed. It is also plausible to assume that if the Wagner IC does prove to drop intake air temps that without the right tuning to harness the benefits there is no benefit to be gained. Not to mention, I also find it curious that Wagner has yet to conduct ANY testing, but is prepared to just throw this IC out on the market. Last edited by cssnms; 12-11-2012 at 11:25 AM.. |
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12-11-2012, 12:12 PM | #40 |
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Very true what you state but lets go farther and have Turbo eddie speak for himself on an IC he reconfigured that was intended for a 335i and for which he is now capable of 45-47 mpg with the the CX racing IC. Makes you wonder if indeed works or not, yet TE does NOT have a JBD or Even any Flash just meth as far as i am concerned.
Trust me, i do understand what you imply and it is well reasoned to be a bit skeptical of ANY product w/o R&D, that is why I called RENNtech into this to do investigation with WAGNER and also with ECOTUNE. But, if no one party participates then we are ALL SOL!!
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12-11-2012, 01:07 PM | #41 | |
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What would be interesting to see if you or someone local to Renntech can get your hands on a Wagner IC and hand it over to Renntech for some testing/tuning to see if in fact there is anything to be gained w/a Wagner IC. I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer here, just trying to be practical about it. I want performance options as much as anyone, which is why I am a litte (actually a lot) disappointed Wagner has not done any testing yet and to take it a step further actually performed some data logging and back-to-back dyno runs and compare it against stock. Shoot I would be happy if it proved to just significantly lower EGT's under all load conditions. Last edited by cssnms; 12-11-2012 at 01:19 PM.. |
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12-11-2012, 02:19 PM | #42 |
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Yeah, I have to side with cssnms on this one. I think we've all proven we are happy to support the companies who support our vehicles, but that doesn't mean that we will blindly buy any part that you tell us is for the d. Just because something fits physically, this does not mean that it is optimized for the system into which it is being integrated.
Hopefully we got the wrong message and Wagner does actually have test data from before they started production. If not, hopefully they will test these post production models and share their data. If not, hopefully someone who doesn't mind tossing his/her time & money into being a beta (or should i say alpha) tester can produce some objective, quantifiable data so that the rest of us can learn from their success (or lack thereof). |
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12-11-2012, 03:38 PM | #43 |
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I wholeheartly agree w u amigo problem is that noone is willing to do it. I had forgotten TE had done his own piggyback. I contacted Renntech and there response was they feed back from actual clients from Ecotune in respects to the downpipe.
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