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11-15-2007, 12:53 AM | #1 |
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Ok I'm ready for the but here is the question.
I'm not all that skilled at driving stick - all I've driven is a friend's Honda and my aunt's Mazda I've heard horror stories of people (noobs) having a hard time getting into first from an incline, is there anything you can add to the car that would keep you from rolling back Noob question I know but hey, I'm not all that great at driving a stick |
11-15-2007, 01:08 AM | #7 |
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could be. I thought it was something like Start out assist or something.
Edit: it's called "start off assistance". Dynamic Stability Control (DSC), including Brake Fade Compensation, Start-off Assistant, Brake Drying, and Brake Stand-by features, with Dynamic Traction Control (DTC) |
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11-15-2007, 01:12 AM | #9 |
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it should be standard...even tho you might have a little trouble, after a couple hours youll be able to easily do it. just get to 2000 + rpms and release the clutch fairly qquickyl...once you get the car and play with it youll understand.
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11-15-2007, 01:52 AM | #10 |
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The people who are really stuck on steep hills are those with front-wheel-drive. Much of the weight shifts to the back when you are on a San Francisco 30-degree incline, so a front-wheel-drive is left without any wheel traction. On a 30-degree downhill, the roles are reversed, but you don't need any engine power at all to get going in that situation.
As others have noted, BMWs have the "hill assist" for manual transmission cars. However, even without that feature, using the parking break (as shown in the video referenced above) is standard stick-shift knowledge. |
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11-15-2007, 01:02 PM | #11 |
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Wow, what are you guys talking about???? Who loses traction when starting off normally. Maybe when racing and dropping the clutch weight transfer matters but for normal driving it makes no difference...
Also, do not rev to 2k. This is not a tiny 4 cylinder. Your revs should never go above 1200 hundred when engaging the clutch from a stand still when driving normally. You will be burning the clutch excessively if you do. Please stop giving people bag advice and go back to driving school. The start off assist feature is nice but really unnecessary. If you simply lift on the clutch to where it just starts to engage without stalling the engine, you can release the brake and the car will not roll back. |
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11-15-2007, 01:09 PM | #12 |
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i don't know what it's called (hill/start assist) but it's a standard feature on MT BMWs.
it freaked me out a bit at first when the car didn't roll back an inch but now it's a feature i can't live without. i wouldn't worry about it too much. if you've covered the basics, just be easy on the bimmer and the rest will come with time. you'll find the tranny totally different from the one in hondas, a bit more difficult to operate smoothly. but you'll learn to go around that problem too once you get used to the clutch.
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11-15-2007, 01:14 PM | #13 |
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Yes, you can add something to help you with MT. Go buy a sticker that say "noob at MT, keep away 500 feet" and slap this on your rear bumper.
j/k I am bored today.
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As long as you're not mentally challenged in any way you will be able to drive a MT car up hills and from a stand still without any problems after a few weeks of practice so don't sweat it. Then you can learn how to rev-match and heel-toe, but getting the basics down is all about practice. You will be fine.
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11-15-2007, 01:17 PM | #15 |
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ok your car has what is called forward assit. when you left off the clutch half way with out putting you foot on the gas the car will start moving. so when your uphill take you foot halfway off the clutch then let go of the brakes and hit the gast. that prevents you from rolling back. most american cars do not have forward assist so try it before you go on a hill.
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11-15-2007, 01:22 PM | #17 |
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Hey - Just to add my comments
Hill Assist works great for MT shifting. Before my BMW with the Hill assist, I would use the Parking brake or be really good with the timing of the clutch/gas. Depend on the size of the hill.
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When my dad taught me to drive, he said once you can easily finding the exact spot on where to hold the clutch and the car doesn't roll back. Then, you can shift gear smoothly. Keep practicing...
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11-15-2007, 01:56 PM | #19 |
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Hill assist or whatever its called is a nice feature, but you shouldn't need that or the ebrake when taking the car out of gear and going up a hill. After driving a manual for a few weeks you will see what I am saying once you get a feel for the car, and see where the clutch engagement point is. You will be able to feel it start to grab and you can slip the clutch (hold it near the engagement point where the clutch starts to grab and be steady on the throttle until you take off and can release the clutch) when taking off in 1st gear going up a hill.
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11-15-2007, 01:59 PM | #20 |
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My first day driving stick on the 335i, I had no problem starting on an incline at all due to hill start assist. If you have problem with this car then you won't be able to drive others! So don't worry too much you'll get the hang of it real quick
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11-15-2007, 05:08 PM | #22 |
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Hill assist works very well, and will definitely help you not to roll backwards on an incline. Although I would recommend once you get familiar with driving a manual that you practice starting on a hill in a vehicle without it. I think it's important to get used to the "feel" of rolling a bit backwards and being quick to coordinate the gas and clutch.
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