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How a Porsche flew into 2nd floor of a building, killing two
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11-11-2019, 08:23 AM | #23 |
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Very sad, and unfortunate. Kids under 25 almost always feel invincible, then this happens.
One thing though. can people in the US stop saying "high rate of speed" ? It means nothing. High speed, sure. Rate of speed? No. |
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11-11-2019, 08:47 AM | #24 | |
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11-11-2019, 09:13 AM | #25 |
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This video show the path they took to launch the car into the building. It will give you an ideal how fast they were going and the fact they could not or did not try to slow the car in spite of the skid marks.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/po...cid=spartanntp |
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11-11-2019, 10:12 AM | #26 | |
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11-11-2019, 10:21 AM | #27 |
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They were definitely hauling ass. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to have an accident like that.
If you look at maps there was a long straight with a right hand turn where they crashed. I'd guess they got up to speed, driver got caught out a bit at the turn, lift throttle oversteer+cold temps+summer tires and that thing snapped on them. Along for the ride at that point. Hard lesson. I got lucky as a kid. Plan to have my sons do the extra driving schools (BMWCCA Street Survival school) along with some autocrossing to get an appreciation for car control and just how easy it is to loose control.
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11-11-2019, 10:52 AM | #28 |
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My first car was an $800 '67 Dodge Dart with an inline 6 and 3 on the tree. It couldn't get airborne if I drove it off a cliff.
This Porsche incident reminds me of the M5 incident in FL on the runway beside John Travolta's house. That car also went seriously airborne and killed four or five kids if I recall correctly.
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11-11-2019, 11:08 AM | #30 |
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I am not sure we should over-complicated. These types of accidents are very rare. It may end up costing millions of dollars to fix a few thousands of dollars.
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11-11-2019, 11:09 AM | #31 |
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Likely that 100+ speeds and losing control, probably resulted in some fishtail/slide and attempted corrections/oscillations that made it worse and then hit something going in that direction to go airborne.
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This happened just a few miles from my house, Crazy.... Something catapulted them up besides speed.. Its a straight road where that happened which is crazy..
Heres the spot where it happened, Still crazy they ended up in the second floor... https://www.google.com/maps/place/14...!4d-74.1708555 Sad, I know its obvious they were doing something unsafe but we've all done the same as kids im sure...
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* Speed is by definition a rate of change of position, therefore already a rate, adding the word rate before this does not add more meaning. * High speed means high rate of change of position. * High rate of speed means then, high rate of rate of position. Can you explain to me how this makes more sense? The correct terminology is High Speed. Nothing more, nothing less. eg: High Speed Car Chase. NOT High Rate of Speed Car Chase. I just don't understand how they could achieve such flight at any speed. I can't see anything that looks like a ramp that could launch them that high. I know I've done some dumb things when I started driving, but luckily cars just weren't fast enough to cause this kind of catastrophic damage and loss of life. Last edited by GtiGyver; 11-11-2019 at 12:34 PM.. |
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The embankment opposite the parking lot from the building is what gave them lift. There is another thread on here with a link that shows photos. Two officers are standing in the dirt that made them airborne.
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