[rjahl]

Originally Posted by Joester

I emailed Bimmerlabs over a week ago and no response. I hope hassmaschine is okay, he's done so much for the community.

He's in Mexico, heard from him this morning

[desertman123]

All I want is cruise control on the noMAF tunes :/

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by desertman123

All I want is cruise control on the noMAF tunes :/

I'm not 100% sure but I suspect the problem is locating a source 0da that's maf less and has cruise control. Or at least finding an Oda pair with and without Cruze control. Thus allowing someone to study the difference,

It's a research project that takes time.

[Terraphantm]

Originally Posted by rjahl

I'm not 100% sure but I suspect the problem is locating a source 0da that's maf less and has cruise control. Or at least finding an Oda pair with and without Cruze control. Thus allowing someone to study the difference,

It's a research project that takes time.

I'm sure at least one euro model came with cruise control (they're all mafless).

I'd love to help out, but I don't have an MSV70 car to experiment with.

[desertman123]

Originally Posted by rjahl

I'm not 100% sure but I suspect the problem is locating a source 0da that's maf less and has cruise control. Or at least finding an Oda pair with and without Cruze control. Thus allowing someone to study the difference,

It's a research project that takes time.

Originally Posted by Terraphantm

I'm sure at least one euro model came with cruise control (they're all mafless).

I'd love to help out, but I don't have an MSV70 car to experiment with.

Yeah me and Hass were doing a little experimenting but quickly realize it was more a matter of transferring over the cruise control program rather than just enabling it, and didn't look too much further into it since that's a project in itself. I totally understand this is more experimental than off-the-shelf tunes. Been very happy with my noMAF 3IM/headers/MILVS tune for about a year now.

I'd love to be a guinea pig, but I'm MSV80.

[Terraphantm]

That doesn't sound right to me since the program doesn't vary between region or with maf.

I've done plenty of work with the MSV80 as well - in fact, I'd say I'm much more familiar with the MSV80 than the 70. But I still don't actually own a car that uses said DME.

[desertman123]

Originally Posted by Terraphantm

That doesn't sound right to me since the program doesn't vary between region or with maf.

I've done plenty of work with the MSV80 as well - in fact, I'd say I'm much more familiar with the MSV80 than the 70. But I still don't actually own a car that uses said DME.

I am paraphrasing but that was the gist of what I was told. I tried doing a bit of research to see if anything else caused cruise to be disabled - most people were able to retrofit CC with just a new steering wheel stalk, then editing their VO and coding a few modules to factory (DSC, KOMBI, CAS, maybe more). So clearly no DME reflash was needed to enable it. When I retrofit my 135i cluster I set KOMBI to stock and all the cruise settings were disabled/set to enable at 65535kmh.

Also I did catch DSC codes 5E18 and/or 5E19 around that time, which I think are DSC-DME CAN errors, although they haven't appeared in a while and I don't even know if it's related. Just more pieces of the puzzle.

Sorry if anything's wrong it's all from memory.

[rjahl]

I jug through the kmm_atsh file and I could not find any reference to the control control option and the possible ZB numbers for the DME. Checked $540 and $544.

That makes me think that Cruise control is always part of the 0PA AND 0DA files and is simply turned on or off via the Vehicle Order.

[desertman123]

Originally Posted by rjahl

I jug through the kmm_atsh file and I could not find any reference to the control control option and the possible ZB numbers for the DME. Checked $540 and $544.

That makes me think that Cruise control is always part of the 0PA AND 0DA files and is simply turned on or off via the Vehicle Order.

That lines up with the CC retrofits I saw.

Hmm could there be something creating an error and thus disabling it? I verified a couple days ago that I still have $540 in my VO (I could try recoding the whole car to standard but I think I did that already to get rid of the "coding error" on the DME). Also tried calibrating steering angle sensor. I'm at a loss lol.

Scanned the car today and got
A127 (CAS) - Error ACK KL15 is off before request
5E18 (DSC) - CAN DME message implausible

I've got a friend with a 128i as well running the free 3stage/noMAF tune and cruise doesn't work on his either (just wanted to be sure it wasn't just a hardware problem on my car only).

I appreciate the help guys!!

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by desertman123

That lines up with the CC retrofits I saw.

Hmm could there be something creating an error and thus disabling it? I verified a couple days ago that I still have $540 in my VO (I could try recoding the whole car to standard but I think I did that already to get rid of the "coding error" on the DME). Also tried calibrating steering angle sensor. I'm at a loss lol.

Scanned the car today and got
A127 (CAS) - Error ACK KL15 is off before request
5E18 (DSC) - CAN DME message implausible

I've got a friend with a 128i as well running the free 3stage/noMAF tune and cruise doesn't work on his either (just wanted to be sure it wasn't just a hardware problem on my car only).

I appreciate the help guys!!

For what it's worth, when I turn off my DSC the cruise control goes inactive.

I see you have DSC fault.

Related behavior?

[Terraphantm]

Originally Posted by desertman123

That lines up with the CC retrofits I saw.

Hmm could there be something creating an error and thus disabling it? I verified a couple days ago that I still have $540 in my VO (I could try recoding the whole car to standard but I think I did that already to get rid of the "coding error" on the DME). Also tried calibrating steering angle sensor. I'm at a loss lol.

Scanned the car today and got
A127 (CAS) - Error ACK KL15 is off before request
5E18 (DSC) - CAN DME message implausible

I've got a friend with a 128i as well running the free 3stage/noMAF tune and cruise doesn't work on his either (just wanted to be sure it wasn't just a hardware problem on my car only).

I appreciate the help guys!!

Are you running a straight up euro 130i tune, or is this something Hass cooked up to turn a USish tune to mafless? Could very well be that there's a misidentified switch somewhere that fucks with a DSC message rather than having to do anything with the maf.

[desertman123]

Originally Posted by rjahl

For what it's worth, when I turn off my DSC the cruise control goes inactive.

I see you have DSC fault.

Related behavior?

I did mention this to Hass but he didn't think they were related - I thought it was suspect as a DSC fault *should* disable cruise, although I haven't seen any other strange behavior from DSC (DTC definitely still works lol).

Originally Posted by Terraphantm

Are you running a straight up euro 130i tune, or is this something Hass cooked up to turn a USish tune to mafless? Could very well be that there's a misidentified switch somewhere that fucks with a DSC message rather than having to do anything with the maf.

The normal euro 130i noMAF tune will disable cruise as well, which leads me to question exactly how the file was assembled - is it a true euro tune or did he assemble it using a US tune + the 3 series noMAF? (or does it not matter since the 1/3 series MSV80 should be identical, besides maybe a powerclass byte)


But I don't know a thing compared to you guys lol. I just see ECUs giving DME CAN faults after the tune and can't help but make a connection.

I sent you guys a PM with the files I've been using the past year.

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by desertman123

I did mention this to Hass but he didn't think they were related - I thought it was suspect as a DSC fault *should* disable cruise, although I haven't seen any other strange behavior from DSC (DTC definitely still works lol).

The normal euro 130i noMAF tune will disable cruise as well, which leads me to question exactly how the file was assembled - is it a true euro tune or did he assemble it using a US tune + the 3 series noMAF? (or does it not matter since the 1/3 series MSV80 should be identical, besides maybe a powerclass byte)


But I don't know a thing compared to you guys lol. I just see ECUs giving DME CAN faults after the tune and can't help but make a connection.

I sent you guys a PM with the files I've been using the past year.

Have you tried a running clean stock Euro 128 file? Do the Euro cars do something different for the DSC?

The Euro tune might run ok and then you just rebuilt the tune and correct the cat stuff. There is a country code identifier but they don't always use them.

I have no maps built for the MSV80. I started to built them years ago but stopped when I realized the were the same values as the MSV70 just in a different locations with byte swaps. Manual conversion is a real pain.

[Terraphantm]

No such thing as a stock Euro 128. They had a 125 and a 130, both of which would have a different power class than a US spec 128i, so either way he has to do an RSA defeat at minimum.

In his case, since it seems to be the DSC module complaining of a faulty CAN message from the DME, I guess the first thing I'll check is to see if any of the changes impact can bus operation.

Edit: It seems like the files he gave you are based on a Euro 330i. I wonder if it simply comes down to the 130i and 330i having different DSC modules. I think it's worth trying a 130i file with the powerclass edited to match your car.

[desertman123]

Originally Posted by rjahl

Have you tried a running clean stock Euro 128 file? Do the Euro cars do something different for the DSC?

The Euro tune might run ok and then you just rebuilt the tune and correct the cat stuff. There is a country code identifier but they don't always use them.

I have no maps built for the MSV80. I started to built them years ago but stopped when I realized the were the same values as the MSV70 just in a different locations with byte swaps. Manual conversion is a real pain.

Originally Posted by Terraphantm

No such thing as a stock Euro 128. They had a 125 and a 130, both of which would have a different power class than a US spec 128i, so either way he has to do an RSA defeat at minimum.

In his case, since it seems to be the DSC module complaining of a faulty CAN message from the DME, I guess the first thing I'll check is to see if any of the changes impact can bus operation.

Edit: It seems like the files he gave you are based on a Euro 330i. I wonder if it simply comes down to the 130i and 330i having different DSC modules. I think it's worth trying a 130i file with the powerclass edited to match your car.

To the best of my memory, the "128i to 130i" standard tune with MAF had CC work just fine, it was just when I switched to the 130i noMAF ones, any of them, that CC disabled and I get the CAN errors. Once I'm home from my parents tonight I can reflash a few files and test things out. I do have the RSA delete. I haven't tried any files that aren't available on Hass' website.

According to realOEM, the 1 series didn't come with the IAT sensor that the noMAF cars did (13627547822). Just 3 series and up.

I'm open to try a few experiments I just don't know the first thing about editing these files. If you got time to help find/edit files I can compensate.

[Terraphantm]

Originally Posted by desertman123

To the best of my memory, the "128i to 130i" standard tune with MAF had CC work just fine, it was just when I switched to the 130i noMAF ones, any of them, that CC disabled and I get the CAN errors. Once I'm home from my parents tonight I can reflash a few files and test things out. I do have the RSA delete. I haven't tried any files that aren't available on Hass' website.

According to realOEM, the 1 series didn't come with the IAT sensor that the noMAF cars did (13627547822). Just 3 series and up.

I'm open to try a few experiments I just don't know the first thing about editing these files. If you got time to help find/edit files I can compensate.

I’m the one who built the maf versions, and those were built using the us 128i tune as a base and changing the engine running characteristics for the 3 stage without touching anything else.

I’ll take a closer look, I guess that could be why he used the 330i tune as a base. I’ll try to make a 130i tune that has the 330 no maf changes while preserving the 1series specific stuff

[Blueeyesredpanda]

Originally Posted by Terraphantm

I’m the one who built the maf versions, and those were built using the us 128i tune as a base and changing the engine running characteristics for the 3 stage without touching anything else.

I’ll take a closer look, I guess that could be why he used the 330i tune as a base. I’ll try to make a 130i tune that has the 330 no maf changes while preserving the 1series specific stuff

Would it be possible for you to make a header tune? Because I was going to purchase the tune from Bimmerlabs after the instllation, turned out it's not available. So now my car just can't run right.

[Terraphantm]

Originally Posted by Blueeyesredpanda

Would it be possible for you to make a header tune? Because I was going to purchase the tune from Bimmerlabs after the instllation, turned out it's not available. So now my car just can't run right.

I'm sorry, but I can't, not really my expertise. Hass knows a lot more about tuning for aftermarket components than I do.

[desertman123]

Originally Posted by Terraphantm

I’m the one who built the maf versions, and those were built using the us 128i tune as a base and changing the engine running characteristics for the 3 stage without touching anything else.

I’ll take a closer look, I guess that could be why he used the 330i tune as a base. I’ll try to make a 130i tune that has the 330 no maf changes while preserving the 1series specific stuff

Hey any chance you had a moment to look at this stuff? Thanks

I noticed the code 5E18 will always pop up if I delete "learned variants"in the DME adaptations

[MAX_009]

Hello. Tell me how to contact bimmerlabs. The site stopped working

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by MAX_009

Hello. Tell me how to contact bimmerlabs. The site stopped working

As posted on another thread, it back up and running.

[MAX_009]

Originally Posted by rjahl

As posted on another thread, it back up and running.

Thank you very much. The site was up and running yesterday. And i was able to download all files for tune n51 328xi to 330.