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      03-26-2020, 01:02 PM   #23
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I am all for convenience, but now if my phone is stolen in a restaurant, mall, etc... I am guessing I won't be seeing my car outside anymore either.
Not sure why so many BMW owners are against more tech incorporation into cars.

Presumably this will use FaceID so if your phone is stolen, unless they can break into that, they won't be able to access your car.
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Excellent. One less thing to carry around. I pay for things, open my garage, etc with my phone. Looking forward to the death of keys and wallets.
I have a feeling you'd be totally screwed if you're out one day and your phone craps out. No communication, no car, no money.
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Wait till BMW charges you an annual fee to use that Digital Key feature. Bloodsuckers.
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I am all for convenience, but now if my phone is stolen in a restaurant, mall, etc... I am guessing I won't be seeing my car outside anymore either.
Not sure why so many BMW owners are against more tech incorporation into cars.

Presumably this will use FaceID so if your phone is stolen, unless they can break into that, they won't be able to access your car.
Which will likely happen if Apple Wallet is used as a bridge between key and BMW but then it's just more steps to actually get your car unlocked vs. comfort access where all I need to do is place my hand on the handle to unlock and enter.

It's the world we're living in - technology focused, but it's not something I would use just out of sheer hassle.
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It's basically like Tesla system with model 3's isn't it?
You need to unlock your phone to drive with tesla. This makes it seem like you can walk up to the car with your phone in the pocket.

But my guess would be that it only unlocks your car, you would then need to use your phone to start driving the car. The article is just not clear on that.
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Excellent. One less thing to carry around. I pay for things, open my garage, etc with my phone. Looking forward to the death of keys and wallets.
I have a feeling you'd be totally screwed if you're out one day and your phone craps out. No communication, no car, no money.
I think I asked that on the Android post showing the technology and cunningly it seems to work with a flat phone. Obviously security is reduced, no Face ID perhaps, but I was told the NFC would work and open the car.
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Excellent. One less thing to carry around. I pay for things, open my garage, etc with my phone. Looking forward to the death of keys and wallets.
I have a feeling you'd be totally screwed if you're out one day and your phone craps out. No communication, no car, no money.
I think I asked that on the Android post showing the technology and cunningly it seems to work with a flat phone. Obviously security is reduced, no Face ID perhaps, but I was told the NFC would work and open the car.
I could imagine this may play nicely for people who bought into the whole Apple ecosystem and uses the Apple Watch regularly.

Tap your wrist to unlock might be better than taking our your phone and doing Face ID
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Yeah there is no way how this could go wrong
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I have a feeling you'd be totally screwed if you're out one day and your phone craps out. No communication, no car, no money.
I have a smart watch and a smart phone. I can't think of a time in the last ten years that my phone has been dead mid day, let alone my watch AND phone.

I'm batting 1.000 so far and I doubt that will change.
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I see it as this being offered as a standard and if you need physical keys, its a 1000$ option.
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      03-26-2020, 02:07 PM   #33
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I am all for convenience, but now if my phone is stolen in a restaurant, mall, etc... I am guessing I won't be seeing my car outside anymore either.
Not sure why so many BMW owners are against more tech incorporation into cars.

Presumably this will use FaceID so if your phone is stolen, unless they can break into that, they won't be able to access your car.
Which will likely happen if Apple Wallet is used as a bridge between key and BMW but then it's just more steps to actually get your car unlocked vs. comfort access where all I need to do is place my hand on the handle to unlock and enter.

It's the world we're living in - technology focused, but it's not something I would use just out of sheer hassle.
Ultimately it will be an option in case you decided to forego using your regular key.

For some people, leaving the house with just a phone, no wallet or car key is a feature worth having. But I doubt this will be mandatory and every car will come with a key regardless.
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It's mentality like this that prevents progress.

If you like a old fashioned key with no transponder at all then that's fine, just buy an old MB.
I have nothing against progress, but not all tech is useful or necessary. Kind of like Beta machines.
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Considering the technology we have it’s actually coming late
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When are they going to to learn that Android should be the priority?
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Just another thing to be hacked...not to mention Apple...they don't need any help taking over the world. I'll keep my key.
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Just put a chip in our heads and get it over with!
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They can't even keep the integration between idrive and iPhones or CarPlay functioning correctly, imagine every time there's an iPhone software update you can't open your car, or it opens but it'll be a random door so some days you have to crawl through your boot... 🙄
Well, my understanding is it will be an option to use, not required. Ya know, I haven't had very many problems with Apple CarPlay (ACP) in my M2. Works like a charm.
I do hope BMW does NOT decide to charge $300 for CarKey. THAT would be another rip-off. Also, while I'm here typing this, although I am an Apple user, I do believe ALL car manufacturers should provide for both ACP AND Android.
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All well and good but how about they first bother to sort out keyless go properly so people aren't waking up to see their car gone from their driveway! How many years has this been going on for with little action from car manufacturers.
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Just put a chip in our heads and get it over with!
Look up ID2020....basically what they are trying to do! It's no joke.
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When are they going to to learn that Android should be the priority?
Ha - hopefully never. At least in the US, many more people in the BMW class use iPhones! Numbers are even higher if you look at Gen Z population too.
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I hope BMW doesn't screw us again by making it an iDrive 8 only........
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I am all for convenience, but now if my phone is stolen in a restaurant, mall, etc... I am guessing I won't be seeing my car outside anymore either.
You will need your fingerprint to activate the opening of the car. the same thing we are already using to pay with our Iphone
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