[ro881e]

I briefly considered a 5 series GT - the luxury of a 7 series with the space of a hatchback. Then i realised I would have to shut my eyes every time I walked out to it! Affordable though, because no one else wants to buy them...

Ideally an E46 M3, but the prices have exploded recently making them vastly unreachable for a decent model (i.e. Not gold cabrio with a shagged engine).

[Leucosticte]

hmmm... probably an E9x m3 after i drive this car into the ground.

[Bimmer_Engineer]

I was thinking about an rs3...I drove and f30 M3 and I liked it but it so damn loud on cold start I wouldn’t be able to drive it. I leave for work at 5 am most days and it would wake the entire house up...

[Bimmer_Engineer]

Originally Posted by ryan stewart

Im young enough that Ill move on because its just going to become too hard to repair. Then it will likely be a volvo because nobody else will make a wagon in the US.

You could get an E class Benz

[ryan stewart]

Originally Posted by Bimmer_Engineer

You could get an E class Benz

I'm guessing in 5 years those will be gone. Already down to just base 4x4 and the AMG.

[sk1939]

Meh, the E90 is my 5th car, so most likely will be keeping it for a while. Might get a Tesla P100D, but I've also toyed with getting a V12-powered AMG like the S65 because E90 repair bills aren't expensive enough. There's also this, because who doesn't like 600+ HP....https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...t-corvette-53/

[ky0u]

I want an m8 or a Cayman GT4. Not sure how I'll feel when that time comes and whether I'd be more inclined to a GT car vs a purer sports car.

I don't think it'd be a straight replacement though, I don't intend to get rid of my cars (at least that's the mentality at this time). I have a list of 6 BMWs I want, and own 2 of them so far. Although maybe when the prices of the b58 cars go down and the documentation of issues and mods is a bit more available, it'll be tempting

[scanspeak]

I plan to keep my E92 forever.
However a more LOW-MAINTENANCE family/commuter-friendly second car will be purchased at some stage.
Probably something electric like this if the price is reasonable:

[Soden82]

Originally Posted by Bimmer_Engineer

I was thinking about an rs3...I drove and f30 M3 and I liked it but it so damn loud on cold start I wouldn’t be able to drive it. I leave for work at 5 am most days and it would wake the entire house up...

My friend has a nardo edition rs3 he just bought. Very capable all around car. Sounds incredible also. He has the sport exhaust with the secondary cats deleted

[modelm]

I'm hoping I will own this car until there is fleet of self driving robo taxi's at my disposal. If you believe Elon that'll happen by the end of this year.

[JonOhh]

One day I'll end up with something newer (read: a very long time away) but definitely not going to move on from the e90. It's just too good of an all around car.

The 240i is nice, yeah, fast and tons of fun, but as a daily I'd still choose my e90 330i over the 235/240...there's a level of solidity and quality I just don't feel with the new ones.

Not dismissing the new BMWs, they're not bad by any means, but there's something different about them.

[hassmaschine]

Originally Posted by JonOhh

Not dismissing the new BMWs, they're not bad by any means, but there's something different about them.

Modern BMWs huge and bloated, completely unreliable, practically unrepairable (unless you are a dealer), only come with automatic/turbo, and have horrible resale value. You'd have to be either independently wealthy, completely clueless or insane to buy a new BMW imo. And I haven't driven anything else for 20 years.

Then you get to subjective stuff like buck tooth kidney grilles, complete lack of feel and no options for manual control (you know, "ultimate driving" type stuff). Those teeth, yeesh.

[Gkacmaz]

moved on from a 328xi to an X5 50i. I put over 40k Miles on the 328xi.
Here's the "issues" I had

Water leak from sunroof
-cleaned the drains

Coil Packs
-very normal

Washer fluid tank leak from the connection to the tube
-new tube

That's it, held up perfectly and never left me stranded loved that car but the X5 is on a different level

[fastboatster]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Modern BMWs huge and bloated, completely unreliable, practically unrepairable (unless you are a dealer), only come with automatic/turbo, and have horrible resale value. You'd have to be either independently wealthy, completely clueless or insane to buy a new BMW imo. And I haven't driven anything else for 20 years.

Then you get to subjective stuff like buck tooth kidney grilles, complete lack of feel and no options for manual control (you know, "ultimate driving" type stuff). Those teeth, yeesh.

I dont think this is completely correct and most of your points apply to most of the newer cars these days, mostly German manufacturers of course but Japanese are starting to keep up with turbo and DI issues. Your points sound a lot like regurgitating talking points of most of the YouTube bloggers and "experts". I had 2 f series bmws as loaners, and they were fine. 428i was actually good and if I did not want a manual, it would be something I'd like to have not in the least part because it's zf 8 was seriously impressive. Current g20 3 series are big but not huge, have no buckteeth grill and have nearly the same architecture as previous 3 series, except like where used to be just the exhaust headers, there's now a turbo (as if e90 didn't have several turbo engines and let's not forget the fact that e46s had turbodiesels outside the US, these were not real BMWs apparently). I dont think they are that unrepairable either, at least the drivetrain seems solid. if anything, b58 seems easier to deal with than the n54 and the zf8 has proven to be very stout and reliable transmission any good transmission shop should be able to rebuild just as easy as zf 6.
Alright, now about what I'd get - probably an m240i, m2 or m340i. Might even get an x3 or an x5 or just 330i, who knows.

[hassmaschine]

Good for you. For $65,000, you get technology from 10 years ago and an ugly, unreliable car. BMW used to be better than that.

Give it 5 years - you'll be able to pick up the modern cars for a song, because nobody will want to pay to fix them. As problematic as the N54 was, it's problems have been learned with age and are well understood. The new cars haven't had enough time to completely fall apart yet.

A modern 3 series is literally half a ton heavier and almost 2 feet longer than it was a few generations ago. It's the frog slowly boiling to death in a frying pan, just because you didn't notice doesn't mean nothing changed. If I wanted a land barge, I'd buy a 7 series. The original was practically the same size.

It wouldn't be much of a problem if the other manufacturers didn't keep up. But they did. The 3 series hasn't been a world class benchmark in years.

[JonOhh]

I think the brand is just heading in the same direction as the other car manufactures unfortunately. As numb as certain models may be, they're still better than the competition which is morphing in the same direction, especially from non German automakers. While they may not have what a lot of us enthusiasts like to see in a BMW, they're still very good cars imo. I do agree on the point that they aren't as far ahead of the competition as they used to be, however.

The only thing I don't like about the B48/58 is the location of the timing chain... but we'll see how they hold up.

I'll keep my e90 330i...not just because I'm college student and don't have a BMW buying income, but because for what I like in a car, they're not quite the same anymore.

[hassmaschine]

Originally Posted by fastboatster

I dont think this is completely correct and most of your points apply to most of the newer cars these days, mostly German manufacturers of course but Japanese are starting to keep up with turbo and DI issues. Your points sound a lot like regurgitating talking points of most of the YouTube bloggers and "experts". I had 2 f series bmws as loaners, and they were fine. 428i was actually good and if I did not want a manual, it would be something I'd like to have not in the least part because it's zf 8 was seriously impressive. Current g20 3 series are big but not huge, have no buckteeth grill and have nearly the same architecture as previous 3 series, except like where used to be just the exhaust headers, there's now a turbo (a nos if e90 didn't have several turbo engines and let's not forget the fact that e46s had turbodiesels outside the US, these were not real BMWs apparently). I dont think they are that unrepairable either, at least the drivetrain seems solid. if anything, b58 seems easier to deal with than the n54 and the zf8 has proven to be very stout and reliable transmission any good transmission shop should be able to rebuild just as easy as zf 6.
Alright, now about what I'd get - probably an m240i, m2 or m340i. Might even get an x3 or an x5 or just 330i, who knows.

Btw, hopefully I didn't seem too salty towards you. It's not personal. It's just as a long time fan of the cars they've made, I just don't see anything they make now or in the future ever being interesting to me. It's disappointing, to be honest. Like meeting your childhood hero, but it turns out he's a stupid, overweight coward.. with buck teeth.

[fastboatster]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Btw, hopefully I didn't seem too salty towards you. It's not personal. It's just as a long time fan of the cars they've made, I just don't see anything they make now or in the future ever being interesting to me. It's disappointing, to be honest. Like meeting your childhood hero, but it turns out he's a stupid, overweight coward.. with buck teeth.

I perfectly understand what you are saying but m340i is relatively close to e90 335i in weight. There might be barely a 100 or 200 lbs difference depending on how well both were optioned. There are no buckteeth either. Vehicular DIY whose opinion I trust more than 1000s of bloggers who barely have a car for a few days for a review claims that the m340i pretty much is in spirit of the e90 335i, lot more so than the f30 chassis. I believe b58 has already been out for nearly 5 years and in a lot of cars and there were no horror stories aside from the usual oil leaks which wasn't the case for the n54. Anyway, I'm just saying that I don't share the same downward-spiral views about BMW as many forum members, I think BMW just responds to the market as best as it can. If it would continue building cars like before, they would not sell and still get criticized, maybe even more.

[POBEP]

For me Tesla model Y without giant ipad in the center.

For now the plan is to keep E91 and E70.

[Tambohamilton]

E61 M5...in my dreams...

[ryan stewart]

Originally Posted by Tambohamilton

E61 M5...in my dreams...

And then when the oil pump goes, in your nightmares.

[eljay]

Since, there's no other 6MT wagon offered, I'm pouring money into our E91.
F31 looks nice, but it would need to be a manual 6-cylinder. So, until that swap is possible, E91 it is.
And I am not opposed to a fully-electric car. It would make complete sense for our short commutes.
With everyone learning how to work remotely these days, there will be less demand for every household to have a fleet of long range vehicles and the electric range anxiety will subside. This may enable the industry to make the electric drivetrain experience etc. better instead of going after battery capacity and packaging.
Tesla is the only electric car manufacturer who understood that a car does not have to look like it's from a cartoon just because it has electric drivetrain. (OK, I don't count the cybertruck). Model 3 looks hatchbackish enough for me, but if they make a beautiful wagon, I will want one badly.
Until then, I'll try to keep my E91s body clean to swap that electric drivetrain into it down the road.