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09-10-2008, 12:42 PM | #67 |
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09-10-2008, 12:59 PM | #68 |
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It's all about supply and demand. Because of the weak dollar, BMW is said to have cut back on the # of 'allocated' units shipped to the US. With demand the same but supply reduced, the price has to go up. Simple economic.
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Weak US Dollar is part of it, however BMW buys insurance to hedge against currency fluctuations. IMO..the biggest reason for the increase in price has to do with the introduction of the 1-series (What did u 1'er fanboys think would happen?), and plain old inflation. |
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i.e. US average income (granted this includes some portions of the US that are nearly third world in wages and conditions) $40K. Therefore a 335i @ $42,000 US would be approximately 105% of an annual wage. A 335i in Aus @ $112,000 AUS with an Annual Average Wage of $57,000 AUS would be approximately 196% of an annual wage. Hence: 335i US = 105% 335i AUS = 196% You guys do indeed live in the "lucky country" - you should see the proverbial shopping list of goodies I get hit with when I fly home - try explaining to customs why you exactly NEED 7 iPods and 3 laptops next time you fly international.... |
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09-10-2008, 01:37 PM | #73 | |
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The old 330i did 0-60 in 6.1 manual and 6.3 automatic The 328i is 6.3 manual and 6.9 automatic. The distance gets larger at the 1/4 mile mark. These are stock BMW numbers not mag numbers which all vary (some have the 330 under 6).
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I have to agree, the prices of 3 series are getting pretty high, but at the same time, whats not getting more expensive. I guess its time to find a way to make more money
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That's a good way to see it. A better comparison is here in Canada. Suppose you are a new engineer. The base salary in oil-rich Alberta would be around $60,000 CAD (and assume 1 CAD = 1 USD since it's almost on par). After taxes you get about $40,000 take-home. In the US, engineers make about the same but the taxes are less. So maybe $50,000 take-home. A 335i base here is around $55k MSRP. In the US it's $40k. So that's about $15,000 difference in pricing and in salary another $10,000 difference. $25,000 net difference. ...more than half of what Americans would pay for a base 335i. Americans just don't know how lucky they are when compared to the rest of the world. |
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09-10-2008, 01:54 PM | #78 |
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right, but i purchased in february when it was still "just" $2,550.
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How about this comparison???????
In 2005, I purchased an e46 330i sedan. Options were: Xenons, automatic, leather, cold weather package. MSRP was around $41,400. I'm going to do some estimating here...so don't hold me to exact numbers.
Let's say I had wanted an identically equipped e46 330i coupe. Add around $2000. Let's say I had wanted AWD (if it had been offered at the time)...add another $2000. This additional $4000 is an approximation based on the current base price difference of $4700 between the 328i sedan and 328xi coupe. And...let's say I had wanted the premium package instead of leather, as a stand alone option. Add around $1800. So, the approximate sticker price of this car (I know, X drive wasn't available, but I'm estimating it's cost if it was) would have been around $46,200. I just recently purchased a 2008 328xi coupe. Options were automatic, premium package, cold weather package, ipod/usb adaptor. This car has everything my above, theoretical, car would have had and more. It has 5 more horsepower than my 330i had. Remember...in 2005 the 330 had 225hp and the 325 had only 186hp (as it was a smaller six).The new engines are lighter and achieve better gas mileage. It has more options than my theoretical car would have had as the premium package (in 2005) did not include the universal garage door opener, bluetooth or power folding mirrors. And you only got 1 year of BMW assist included, as opposed to four years. I also have an ipod/usb adaptor. Sticker price of my 328xi coupe: $43,875. That's over $2300 CHEAPER!!!!!!!! Now...I know some of you will say...."Well...he had the top 3 series model in the 330 and he's comparing it to the entry 3 series model in the 328." But....the bottom line is that I now have a car that is bigger, more modern ,more powerful, more fuel efficient and better equipped than my last BMW. And it cost less money. Compare apples to apples and, I guess, prices have dropped?????? |
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I get what you're saying and what you're getting at, but your argument is pretty much the definition of apples to oranges.
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09-10-2008, 07:00 PM | #83 |
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Weak dollar due to poor fiscal policy by G W Bush. Welcome to reality.
This is just one of many ways it will manifest itself. The lag time is long and this will remain reality across markets for a while. (Clinton left the federal budget with a $5Bn surplus 8 yrs ago, G W will leave with a $13 Bn deficit.) The fiscal conservatives of today are the democrats.
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I live in Canada, and a 335xi Coupe runs me $54,100 BEFORE tax -- BONE STOCK. No packages whatsoever. I see people leasing m3's for the same price we lease 328xi's up here. And the 335 ( $600-$750 range in US ) gets you a nicely loaded Acura TL -- if your lucky One thing is for sure, if i'd be in the states id be driving a sweeeeeet ride cause i'd find everything to be a bargain |
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Also, we have had a Democrat controlled congress for the last 4 years. Tell me one thing they have done. I really can't think of anything. But we are talking about cars. Lets keep the political nonsense off these boards.
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