Worth it to upgrade to BBS?

freshwhite335 · 08-26-2009, 01:07 AM

Currently I'm running 19" V710s on FK452s. I've been running on them for about 11k. I've just recently gotten a bend in one and I was wondering if I had had higher quality wheels, like BBS or HRE, would the bend would have been less likely? I wanted to upgrade to 19" BBS CH's but I also drive over 20000 miles a year and I don't want to spend a lot of money on new wheels if after a year they are going to be shot to shit like the ones I have. The roads here aren't great and I do my best to try and avoid stuff but as you can see it's not working out. Especially since the freeway I have to use to get from my beach-side town to anywhere, including my 80 miles round trip drive to work is always under construction and I'm always going with the flow of traffic at 80MPH +.

I really want to justify buying the BBS's over just replacing the VMR that I bent [I don't really believe in repairing wheels. I haven't had a good experience in the past with wheel repair and there is only one guy in town that does it] But if the point is moot I'll just stick with what I have.

lsdless · 08-26-2009, 01:20 AM

I had 18" BBS RK's on my e36 m3 and I hit a pothole and one of the wheels cracked.

MuchMoore · 08-26-2009, 01:28 AM

Yes.

John_01 · 08-26-2009, 03:06 AM

No. If the roads aren't great I don't think it matters so much which rim you use. It will still be damaged but hitting pot-holes with a low profile tire. The best thing you can do is put extra pressure in the tires to protect the rims. Otherwise change to 17" or 18" rims and keep the recommended tire pressure.

Turbo>NA · 08-26-2009, 03:20 AM

depends

s1cke92 · 08-26-2009, 03:57 AM

iuno how big your pot hole are! LOL!!!. i hit a couple with my lm nothing yet! *knocks on wood* 235/35/19 tires. i just need to get an alignment for the car but prolly not until i get new tires and sway bars and coil over on. i hate going to shop n get it align n wait. haah

Craig@SupremePower · 08-26-2009, 09:12 AM

u can do eeettttttt!!!

tolkino · 08-26-2009, 09:23 AM

I heard BBS rims are really easy to bend, no? I agree that, no matter what you do, you cant stop damaging them if the roads are crappy

Joonsup · 08-26-2009, 10:17 AM

no i don't think it's worth it to upgrade to BBS wheels only because you may think that they will be stronger against potholes. As others mentioned, depending on how fast you're going and the size of the pothole, I don't think it would matter too much if you had BBS wheels or any other wheels. If you have the money to burn, get them b/c you want them in general and not just b/c of the pothole incident. That my opinion

Victory Road · 08-26-2009, 11:26 AM

Upgrade to BBS? Depends on the wheel...CH is a cast wheel (high quality, but still cast). Upgrading to another high strength forged wheel such as HRE, Volk, or Alloy Technic will definitely decrease the chance of having a bent wheel.

Wheel strength isn't just a marketing gimick...a high quality forged wheel will take more abuse and rough hits than a lower quality cast wheel. I can't say for sure whether a high quality wheel would have withstood the hit that bent your VMR, but there is a very good chance.

stressdoc · 08-26-2009, 01:11 PM

If you have the $, a set of quality 18" forged wheels (e.g., Volk) will improve performance and be more durable.

AmBiGuOuS · 08-26-2009, 01:18 PM

Schmidt Wheels!!!!

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isugoo · 08-26-2009, 03:08 PM

Depends.
Some of BBs wheels are way up there. So I don't know it's worth it or not (although they look great and forged).

But some aren't that expensive. Depends on what you're looking for (just look? all about lightweight? good looking strong wheels?): it maybe worth it.

saloon · 08-26-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AmBiGuOuS

Schmidt Wheels!!!!

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MenTul · 08-26-2009, 03:52 PM

Uh no.

If you want BBS wheels, buy ASAs. ASAs are manufactured under license from BBS. Same difference as between GMC and Chevy pickups and in the end you will be better off putting BMW center caps on anyways.

Forged wheels are stronger than cast.

19" are more fragile than 18 and 17s since they run less sidewall. The sidewall is a relative measure of how much impact the tire will absorb before affecting rim. Sidewall makes more of a difference in rim survival than manufacture.

If you want 19s and drive on regular roads expect to replace a rim every once in awhile.

PS. 19" rim + tire weigh more than 18s and 17s. Unsprung weight reduces acceleration, both of your car and your suspension.

PPS. Race wheels run higher aspect tires. I.E. SCCA GT must run on 15" wheels [in anticipation of all the protests from all the "racerboy experts"].

freshwhite335 · 08-26-2009, 06:33 PM

thanks guys. i guess im going to stick with what i have and save up to buy some forged wheels

cassey · 08-27-2009, 09:45 PM

Don't be fooled. Forged wheels aren't indestructible either.

trick000 · 08-27-2009, 09:56 PM

I wouldn't buy expensive rims on a daily.

lsdless · 08-27-2009, 10:04 PM

those videos hurt me to watch.

RevC · 08-27-2009, 10:30 PM

go BBS! i have had a couple pairs and loved them and only recently did i dent one, which is pretty impossible!

TSM330i · 08-28-2009, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stressdoc

If you have the $, a set of quality 18" forged wheels (e.g., Volk) will improve performance and be more durable.

+1

I went with 18" due to the fact the roads here are horrible. I also went with Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrics because they have a rim protector built into the tire. Every little thing helps.
If you're going to upgrade for strength, you should get a set of forged wheels like the Volks. They're not much more than a good quality cast wheel. I'm considering upgrading to forged 18" myself.

08-26-2009, 01:07 AM	#1
freshwhite335 Colonel 152 Rep 2,882 Posts Drives: 991/RR Sport AB Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 904 FL iTrader: (6) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [0.00]	Worth it to upgrade to BBS? Currently I'm running 19" V710s on FK452s. I've been running on them for about 11k. I've just recently gotten a bend in one and I was wondering if I had had higher quality wheels, like BBS or HRE, would the bend would have been less likely? I wanted to upgrade to 19" BBS CH's but I also drive over 20000 miles a year and I don't want to spend a lot of money on new wheels if after a year they are going to be shot to shit like the ones I have. The roads here aren't great and I do my best to try and avoid stuff but as you can see it's not working out. Especially since the freeway I have to use to get from my beach-side town to anywhere, including my 80 miles round trip drive to work is always under construction and I'm always going with the flow of traffic at 80MPH +. I really want to justify buying the BBS's over just replacing the VMR that I bent [I don't really believe in repairing wheels. I haven't had a good experience in the past with wheel repair and there is only one guy in town that does it] But if the point is moot I'll just stick with what I have. __________________ 2014 Range Rover Sport Autobiography 2012.5 991 C2S 1978 Corvette
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lsdless Private First Class 13 Rep 184 Posts Drives: E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	I had 18" BBS RK's on my e36 m3 and I hit a pothole and one of the wheels cracked.
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John_01 Colonel 236 Rep 2,643 Posts Drives: E90 325i, E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	No. If the roads aren't great I don't think it matters so much which rim you use. It will still be damaged but hitting pot-holes with a low profile tire. The best thing you can do is put extra pressure in the tires to protect the rims. Otherwise change to 17" or 18" rims and keep the recommended tire pressure.
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tolkino Captain 50 Rep 821 Posts Drives: '09 BSM E92 328i xDrive Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (1)	I heard BBS rims are really easy to bend, no? I agree that, no matter what you do, you cant stop damaging them if the roads are crappy
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Joonsup Lieutenant General 325 Rep 17,316 Posts Drives: E92 M3, E30 325i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (8) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [9.50]	no i don't think it's worth it to upgrade to BBS wheels only because you may think that they will be stronger against potholes. As others mentioned, depending on how fast you're going and the size of the pothole, I don't think it would matter too much if you had BBS wheels or any other wheels. If you have the money to burn, get them b/c you want them in general and not just b/c of the pothole incident. That my opinion
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Victory Road Major 115 Rep 1,323 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (6)	Upgrade to BBS? Depends on the wheel...CH is a cast wheel (high quality, but still cast). Upgrading to another high strength forged wheel such as HRE, Volk, or Alloy Technic will definitely decrease the chance of having a bent wheel. Wheel strength isn't just a marketing gimick...a high quality forged wheel will take more abuse and rough hits than a lower quality cast wheel. I can't say for sure whether a high quality wheel would have withstood the hit that bent your VMR, but there is a very good chance.
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isugoo Major General 249 Rep 6,125 Posts Drives: 991.2 GTS Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (73)	Depends. Some of BBs wheels are way up there. So I don't know it's worth it or not (although they look great and forged). But some aren't that expensive. Depends on what you're looking for (just look? all about lightweight? good looking strong wheels?): it maybe worth it. __________________ PAST: F80 M3 ZCP \| 911.1 C2S \| F10 M5 ZCP \| E70 X5M \| E90 M3 \| E46 M3 \| E36 M3
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MenTul Private First Class 22 Rep 169 Posts Drives: E90 6MT ZSP ZPP 322 522 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Gulf Coast iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 328i [0.00] 2007 X3 [8.00]	Uh no. If you want BBS wheels, buy ASAs. ASAs are manufactured under license from BBS. Same difference as between GMC and Chevy pickups and in the end you will be better off putting BMW center caps on anyways. Forged wheels are stronger than cast. 19" are more fragile than 18 and 17s since they run less sidewall. The sidewall is a relative measure of how much impact the tire will absorb before affecting rim. Sidewall makes more of a difference in rim survival than manufacture. If you want 19s and drive on regular roads expect to replace a rim every once in awhile. PS. 19" rim + tire weigh more than 18s and 17s. Unsprung weight reduces acceleration, both of your car and your suspension. PPS. Race wheels run higher aspect tires. I.E. SCCA GT must run on 15" wheels [in anticipation of all the protests from all the "racerboy experts"]. __________________ =========//========== Kein Mitleid Fur Die Mehrheit E90 6MT ZSP ZPP 322 522 LCCZ 688 TTGO730 BLACKLINES E83 6AT ZSP ZPP 522 508 4AS 191M LUSW A35 NUVI755T BLACKLINES Donzi ZR
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freshwhite335 Colonel 152 Rep 2,882 Posts Drives: 991/RR Sport AB Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 904 FL iTrader: (6) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [0.00]	thanks guys. i guess im going to stick with what i have and save up to buy some forged wheels __________________ 2014 Range Rover Sport Autobiography 2012.5 991 C2S 1978 Corvette
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RevC Lieutenant General 179 Rep 11,768 Posts Drives: a couple fast toys Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Voorhees+cherry hill,NJ iTrader: (26)	go BBS! i have had a couple pairs and loved them and only recently did i dent one, which is pretty impossible! __________________ -Rev SGM e92 335xi\|Helix\|AFE\|AWE\|PROCEDE\|SYNAPSE\|ER\|OSS\|BMW PERFORMANCE\|P3\|always growing..
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