[Julian2485]

I want to pull the trigger on these. Is it worth it getting the race thrust bearing ?

[ev1l335]

Originally Posted by Julian2485

I want to pull the trigger on these. Is it worth it getting the race thrust bearing ?

I asked Shawn about this and he said that it provides better oiling/cooling, and suggested to buy next stage than getting race thrust bearing if you are deciding between stage 2 & stage 2 with race thrust bearing VS stage 2 & stage 3.

I did order myself Stage 4 on Black Friday, hope Shawn will ship them soon.

[JuniorB]

A race thrust bearing?...wth is that? If it’s steel, I’d pass. There is nothing special about thrust bearings, there no such bearing that’s 30% bigger that a Td04 bearing going in a Td04 housing. If your using oem Td04 turbines and comp wheels, you have to use a tdo4 bearing. The only other bearing that’s bigger is a td05, and that’s for single turbos. The 30% bigger bearing, it’s comparing a td03 to a Td04. This is based solely on OEM Mitsubishi turbo parts, not sure if anyone has actually taken one of these apart to verify the internals.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by JuniorB

A race thrust bearing?...wth is that? If it’s steel, I’d pass. There is nothing special about thrust bearings, there no such bearing that’s 30% bigger that a Td04 bearing going in a Td04 housing. If your using oem Td04 turbines and comp wheels, you have to use a tdo4 bearing. The only other bearing that’s bigger is a td05, and that’s for single turbos. The 30% bigger bearing, it’s comparing a td03 to a Td04. This is based solely on OEM Mitsubishi turbo parts, not sure if anyone has actually taken one of these apart to verify the internals.

Usually though the thrust bearing is upgraded with better oil holes right?

[WoodE30]

Here's why I decided to go with these,

Facts there are better turbos out there, which are most expensive but I know first hand someone who has these turbos and he has not had any issues.
I did hours and hours of research and haven't found any hard of evidence that these turbos are "junk". Yes they're new turbos in the market but every company has to start somewhere.

Their 3 year warranty, that's a big for a company to stand by their product. Yes I'm sure there is a lot of fine print but I plan to document everything to cover my product.

Lastly I look at it like buying a Tv, yeah you can go buy a $8000 tv and I'm sure it will look a little better than that $1500 tv, but is it really worth that much more, I guess I'll find out. That's just my two cents.

[HKD126]

Originally Posted by WoodE30

Here's why I decided to go with these,

Facts there are better turbos out there, which are most expensive but I know first hand someone who has these turbos and he has not had any issues.
I did hours and hours of research and haven't found any hard of evidence that these turbos are "junk". Yes they're new turbos in the market but every company has to start somewhere.

Their 3 year warranty, that's a big for a company to stand by their product. Yes I'm sure there is a lot of fine print but I plan to document everything to cover my product.

Lastly I look at it like buying a Tv, yeah you can go buy a $8000 tv and I'm sure it will look a little better than that $1500 tv, but is it really worth that much more, I guess I'll find out. That's just my two cents.

Interesting you went with these. You mentioned to me you were going with the RB Two Plus’s. I’m placing my order for those as soon as Rob gets back to me today. Did you order the DA 2+ as well?

[WoodE30]

Originally Posted by HKD126

Interesting you went with these. You mentioned to me you were going with the RB Two Plus’s. I’m placing my order for those as soon as Rob gets back to me today. Did you order the DA 2+ as well?

I know I really wanted RBs, but i just didn't want to spend the extra $1000 more and deal with the core/core charge.

Yes, the DW 2+ with the Upgrade wheel and bearing.

[HKD126]

Originally Posted by WoodE30

I know I really wanted RBs, but i just didn't want to spend the extra $1000 more and deal with the core/core charge.

Yes, the DW 2+ with the Upgrade wheel and bearing.

Damn, good deal! These must have really been on sale. The RB Two Plus turbos, RB install kit and RB inlets are $2300 out the door. The only bummer is the core charge, but it won’t be that bad to ship them back. Rob offers a flexible 60 days. I also really like how they use the OEM housing/manifolds so rust won’t be a big deal compared to the cast since I live in Wisconsin. Interested to see how the two compare.

[WoodE30]

Originally Posted by HKD126

Damn, good deal! These must have really been on sale. The RB Two Plus turbos, RB install kit and RB inlets are $2300 out the door. The only bummer is the core charge, but it won’t be that bad to ship them back. Rob offers a flexible 60 days. I also really like how they use the OEM housing/manifolds so rust won’t be a big deal compared to the cast since I live in Wisconsin. Interested to see how the two compare.

Yeah, the price is why I jumped on them, $1574 shipped and i get to keep my old turbos! I know I'm rolling the dice with these but I'm willing to give them a shot because of the price and warranty. I live in Socal so rust isn't really an issue.

[HKD126]

Originally Posted by WoodE30

Yeah, the price is why I jumped on them, $1574 shipped and i get to keep my old turbos! I know I'm rolling the dice with these but I'm willing to give them a shot because of the price and warranty. I live in Socal so rust isn't really an issue.

Nice. Looking forward to your results.

[Julian2485]

Originally Posted by ev1l335

I asked Shawn about this and he said that it provides better oiling/cooling, and suggested to buy next stage than getting race thrust bearing if you are deciding between stage 2 & stage 2 with race thrust bearing VS stage 2 & stage 3.

I did order myself Stage 4 on Black Friday, hope Shawn will ship them soon.

So pretty much either get stage 2 without race bearing or just go stage 3

[RJC612]

Progress report: just hit 500 miles on my stage 3's. pullin hard with zero issues.

[dsource]

reporting in 2.5k miles on the Stage 2's. No issues as of yet, still runnning the OTS tune and haven't reached out to Ken or David to get tuned with PI.

[WoodE30]

Originally Posted by dsource

reporting in 2.5k miles on the Stage 2's. No issues as of yet, still runnning the OTS tune and haven't reached out to Ken or David to get tuned with PI.

What exhaust are you running? Stock?

[KnighTT]

These are still on sale BTW for anyone interested.

Stg 2+ with he upgraded Garrett GTX 11 blade - $1,399.

[Julian2485]

Originally Posted by KnighTT

These are still on sale BTW for anyone interested.

Stg 2+ with he upgraded Garrett GTX 11 blade - $1,399.

I ordered mine yesterday and make sure to either get new oil lines orings gaskets or clean your old lines out very well. Make sure to run 40 weight oil and don't run over 24 psi or the 3 year warranty will be voided. FYI mmp sells the install kit for $50 cheaper

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by Julian2485

I ordered mine yesterday and make sure to either get new oil lines orings gaskets or clean your old lines out very well. Make sure to run 40 weight oil and don't run over 24 psi or the 3 year warranty will be voided. FYI mmp sells the install kit for $50 cheaper

You have to use new oil/coolant lines per their warranty. You can't reuse your stock ones even though they are just fine.

https://dynamicautowerx.com/warranty

Originally Posted by Julian2485

don't run over 24 psi or the 3 year warranty will be voided.

For which models are you limited to 24psi? That is not enforceable mind you.



I do like DAWs return policy:

"Discounted items are not eligible for a return, Custom items, or Turbochargers.

Dynamicautowerx will not issue refunds for products purchased through other entities, such as distributors or retail partners."


Every product they sell online is discounted. Nothing is at MSRP. They routinely sell through distribution. Finally, they don't allow return of turbochargers? God that website is such a fail to read. Maybe the Law Society that they ripped their warranty language from can help fix that dumpster fire of warranty language.

[Julian2485]

Originally Posted by Torgus

You have to use new oil/coolant lines per their warranty. You can't reuse your stock ones even though they are just fine.

https://dynamicautowerx.com/warranty

For which models are you limited to 24psi? That is not enforceable mind you.



I do like DAWs return policy:

"Discounted items are not eligible for a return, Custom items, or Turbochargers.

Dynamicautowerx will not issue refunds for products purchased through other entities, such as distributors or retail partners."


Every product they sell online is discounted. Nothing is at MSRP. They routinely sell through distribution. Finally, they don't allow return of turbochargers? God that website is such a fail to read. Maybe the Law Society that they ripped their warranty language from can help fix that dumpster fire of warranty language.

From what i was told at least the stage 2 shouldn't be run more than 24psi. He won't warranty turbos that are over spun he said. He also recommends upgrading exhaust stock pipe diameter as the crushed parts can go down to a measurement of 1". It causes to much back pressure and abuses the trust assembly.

[KnighTT]

^^ +1

I actually have a lot of work to do while I have the turbo's out so I am going to be putting in everything that will help lengthen the life. 2" inlets, 2" outlets, new oil and coolant lines, as well as the 3.5" VSRF exhaust. I won't run these until that work is done.

Due to the nature of what this car will be used for after these upgrades, I'll also be putting in new rod bearings and gaskets while the bottom is out. I'd rather not take out the 335xi subframe again for a long time.

I ordered the turbo's direct from Shawn himself, so that was my experience. I'll follow the directions of the warranty so I have some peace of mind. So far the only people "rumored"(that I have read about) to have had warranty issues with DW is when they have ran these on the stock exhaust and had issues. I talked to Shawn about this and he had some direct reasons why which are mentioned above (1" exhaust).

I have seen several mentions from DW online, on youtube videos, and elsewhere where they mention that no small frame turbo for the n54 should be ran above 24psi(any brand). Now that may be an engineering POV. Some people are going to jump on that saying they have done 30psi and had no issues, etc etc. I think his point is more along the lines of "well not under warranty they didn't" and that just because it can do something doesn't mean you aren't shortening its life much faster than normal. That can be said about any performance product though.

[KnighTT]

For anyone that is curious, here is the warranty posted on the DW warranty page.

"WARRANTY


Dynamic Autowerx offer a warranty, to the original purchaser, for the repair or replacement of their turbochargers for a period of 36 months starting from the date of purchase. The warranty only covers the turbocharger for faulty workmanship or components and does not extend to turbochargers damaged due to misuse in fitting or operation new oil lines & return lines are required. In most cases the oem exhaust even when modified is not adequate & will result in a premature failure. Please read turbocharger trouble guide in order to ensure the reason for failure of the previous turbocharger has been eradicated before fitment of the replacement unit. Proof and date of the original purchase and purchaser will be required before any warranty claim will be contemplated. Units for which a claim is being made must be returned to Dynamic Autowerx complete, any attempt to dismantle or repair the unit will invalidate the conditions of the warranty. The warranty does not cover the cost of any labour or materials required to remove or re – install the turbocharger, or any other ancillary costs other than those directly attributable to the repair or replacement of the turbocharger itself. All other liabilities such as indirect or consequential loss (including loss of profit) are expressly excluded.

Proof may be required of proper maintenance of manufacture’s routine service levels and intervals, with particular regard to oil and filter changes. Failure to comply with manufacture’s service requirements will invalidate this warranty.

It is vital that the turbocharger is fitted correctly. Please follow all vehicle manufacture’s instructions as well as the removing and refitting a turbocharger is a relatively simple task but should not be attempted by anyone without the necessary experience or expertise to do so. Dynamic Autowerx insist that his or her turbochargers are fitted by someone possessing the knowledge to do so correctly. Incorrect fitting, poor engine condition or maintenance, insufficient or incorrect air or oil filtration could all lead to a claim being rejected.

Most turbocharger failures occur due to engine related problems & improper exhaust setup which if not eliminated will result in the failure of the replacement unit very quickly, but without warranty cover. In order to assist claimants and prevent further problems, Dynamic Autowerx will issue a report on the condition of any turbocharger returned during the warranty period. This is usually a very good indicator as to the reason for any turbocharger’s premature failure.


An independent engineers report may be recommended in the event of a claim remaining unresolved. If we have any disagreement about the warranty that we are unable to resolve we will both abide by the decision of an agreed arbitrator or, if we are unable to agree on an arbitrator, one will be appointed by the Law Society.

The warranty is in addition to, and does not detract from the contractual rights that you have under statute and common law.

THIS WARRANTY IS NOT TRANSFERABLE"

[Julian2485]

Originally Posted by KnighTT

^^ +1

I actually have a lot of work to do while I have the turbo's out so I am going to be putting in everything that will help lengthen the life. 2" inlets, 2" outlets, new oil and coolant lines, as well as the 3.5" VSRF exhaust. I won't run these until that work is done.

Due to the nature of what this car will be used for after these upgrades, I'll also be putting in new rod bearings and gaskets while the bottom is out. I'd rather not take out the 335xi subframe again for a long time.

I ordered the turbo's direct from Shawn himself, so that was my experience. I'll follow the directions of the warranty so I have some peace of mind. So far the only people "rumored"(that I have read about) to have had warranty issues with DW is when they have ran these on the stock exhaust and had issues. I talked to Shawn about this and he had some direct reasons why which are mentioned above (1" exhaust).

I have seen several mentions from DW online, on youtube videos, and elsewhere where they mention that no small frame turbo for the n54 should be ran above 24psi(any brand). Now that may be an engineering POV. Some people are going to jump on that saying they have done 30psi and had no issues, etc etc. I think his point is more along the lines of "well not under warranty they didn't" and that just because it can do something doesn't mean you aren't shortening its life much faster than normal. That can be said about any performance product though.

That's a smart move doing rod bearings while subframe is dropped. I don't believe it's necessary to replace coolant line though just drain and feed oil lines. I'm sure it won't hurt to change coolant lines but not necessary. Are you going with the king rod bearings ? Another thing about the exhaust is if anyone doesn't want to upgrade their exhaust just can cut and weld in 2.5" piping where the crushed exhaust piping is i guess. I'm not going to lie though the vrsf street exhaust does sound amazing. I prefer to keep my secondary cats on my car though because i don't want a catless system

[WoodE30]

Originally Posted by KnighTT

^^ +1

I actually have a lot of work to do while I have the turbo's out so I am going to be putting in everything that will help lengthen the life. 2" inlets, 2" outlets, new oil and coolant lines, as well as the 3.5" VSRF exhaust. I won't run these until that work is done.

Due to the nature of what this car will be used for after these upgrades, I'll also be putting in new rod bearings and gaskets while the bottom is out. I'd rather not take out the 335xi subframe again for a long time.

I ordered the turbo's direct from Shawn himself, so that was my experience. I'll follow the directions of the warranty so I have some peace of mind. So far the only people "rumored"(that I have read about) to have had warranty issues with DW is when they have ran these on the stock exhaust and had issues. I talked to Shawn about this and he had some direct reasons why which are mentioned above (1" exhaust).

I have seen several mentions from DW online, on youtube videos, and elsewhere where they mention that no small frame turbo for the n54 should be ran above 24psi(any brand). Now that may be an engineering POV. Some people are going to jump on that saying they have done 30psi and had no issues, etc etc. I think his point is more along the lines of "well not under warranty they didn't" and that just because it can do something doesn't mean you aren't shortening its life much faster than normal. That can be said about any performance product though.

Yeah I ordered the VRSF 3.5 cat back too. I spoke to Shawn on the phone too.