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      05-25-2021, 01:42 PM   #1
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Exclamation Strange Problem With Audio / video

For The First.. Am New Here and Maybe i did not open topic in right place if i do something wrong please dont warn or ban me just move topic to right/correct place..

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Hello All you Guys and Have nice day / night for you...

What is My problem..

I bought an E90 its made on 2005 year.. ( right Handed Japan Model)

on it i have 6.5 inch monitor..
and multimedia m-ask 9117532 ( as i see its made for E60 )

audio works but ... have problems with coding.. not connecting ( With NCS Exert )
then i have try to find problem in diagnostic i have run Rheingold .. and its says CCC Ecu not connecting ..
am in stuck coundition...
unable to code it to audio seen the CD Changer and also AUX...

some persons who selling parts for e90 told me i need rewiring pins for multimedia connector becouse on my car are installed e60 multimedia and its not connected with all pins ..
i have try research information but i was stuck in googling
if anyone have same or probably same situation
maybe you can give me an opinion what to do


Thanks you all and sorry for my bad English Knowladge


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      05-25-2021, 11:48 PM   #2
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Have you tried running Inpa
Functional jobs
have you checked the Interface settings in the
device manager.
Port number and latency set to 1.

If you are running a head unit not from a older car not in the same range
as the e90 nothing may be comaptible I don't recall such a small screen
in a CCC or CIC.
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      05-26-2021, 12:07 AM   #3
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Have you tried running Inpa
Functional jobs
have you checked the Interface settings in the
device manager.
Port number and latency set to 1.

If you are running a head unit not from a older car not in the same range
as the e90 nothing may be comaptible I don't recall such a small screen
in a CCC or CIC.
yes i have inpa and resultis same its not comunicating with it...

on my E90 is installed E60 (same producing year ) small screen and also 1 CD mediaplayer ( multimedia )
when we are trying to code it with NCS Expert ..
its not comunicating for fully...
its only respond on radio reset and thats all not for another coding ...
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      05-26-2021, 12:35 AM   #4
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You have to solve the communication problem first .
It you can't run Inpa you won't be able to run anything
from Standard tools (INpa , NCSexpert , tool 32 etc.. etc... Your setup must have something
wrong with it you should be able to read some of the modules
in Inpa using functional jobs which reads basic communication
with every module.

I don't see how you can run anything from Ista D either.

Picture shows the main part of the idrive and the temp controller missing.
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      05-26-2021, 01:19 AM   #5
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You have to solve the communication problem first .
It you can't run Inpa you won't be able to run anything
from Standard tools (INpa , NCSexpert , tool 32 etc.. etc... Your setup must have something
wrong with it you should be able to read some of the modules
in Inpa using functional jobs which reads basic communication
with every module.

I don't see how you can run anything from Ista D either.

Picture shows the main part of the idrive and the temp controller missing.
i will go now to the car will make screenshots what will say inpa or rheingold and will paste it here
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      05-26-2021, 02:45 AM   #6
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      05-26-2021, 09:51 AM   #7
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There were some tranitsional years

There were some transitional years
where the 5 series and the 3 series systems where not
the same I believe . The 5 series had a distributed system
where some of the channel were in the Head Unit .
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      05-26-2021, 10:43 AM   #8
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There were some transitional years
where the 5 series and the 3 series systems where not
the same I believe . The 5 series had a distributed system
where some of the channel were in the Head Unit .
i am stuck in that position becouse here
price for e90 oem multimedia system is too high

p.s my key is 315mhz.. ( its not original but right coded and working ) its runs engine but still not close or open a car doors ( central locking system works with key blade .. )
is it possible to i can check or test ( Antenna amplifier Diversity ) block ?
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There were some tranitsional years

There were some transitional years
where the 5 series and the 3 series systems where not
the same I believe . The 5 series had a distributed system
where some of the channel were in the Head Unit .

When people try to program options that were not in there
car that year the production date has to be maniputlated for
the programming to take.
But if the wiring is not correct for that option that has to be
taken care of to.
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      05-26-2021, 12:21 PM   #10
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Quote:
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There were some transitional years
where the 5 series and the 3 series systems where not
the same I believe . The 5 series had a distributed system
where some of the channel were in the Head Unit .

When people try to program options that were not in there
car that year the production date has to be maniputlated for
the programming to take.
But if the wiring is not correct for that option that has to be
taken care of to.

yes i understand about programming
but to program multimedia it must be connected or take operations ( what my multimedia does not to do )
i think i need find CCC pinout and find E60-Mask pinout Then rewire my plug from ccc to mask and then i think it will connect and maybe take programming
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      05-26-2021, 01:07 PM   #11
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The other thing about programming Most Bus Modules is an
Icom cable is required on cars made after 3/07 . Cables described
in the following link.

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-P-actually-do
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      05-28-2021, 02:20 PM   #12
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you car have japan version of the modules and they are quite different and may have external ECU for navigation due the japan assistant system uniqueness
the european MASK with display cost almost nothing, you have to replace MASK and DISPLAY or try to flash european firmware to your current MASK
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I have also M-ASK navigation unit however - yours is slightly different.

There is actually two generations of M-ASK.

The first ever generation: M-ASK that you have.
And upgraded generation: M-ASKII - i have.
Both have tiny screens.

It was Navigation system Business option some people bought for unknown reason and the E60 does not mean it's from E60. It's on all M-ASK systems but first developed for E60 platform. There are numerous E60 specific codings on it but also choices for e90.

This weekend i plan to add microphone to M-ASK unit, depends if it can bypass the Android integrated one and will take radio apart in the process.

As i understand your unit is partially working. Like some sections are not receiving power or are just broken. Can code M-ASK with ncsexpert so it shouldn't need an icom cable.

I can get you some images of my connectors and how they are wired. Also perhaps even measure some pins that definitely should have voltage coming in.

I suppose it's worth to check if the car came with M-ASK or it was later fitted (vin decoder) to get clear picture if we are chasing unfinished retrofit or diagnosing not working equipment.
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Dear Users i was searching a lot of information about this but was unable to slove...
i dont know what to do...
VIN WBAVB56020ND27734
Thats an VIN code of my car..
its Japanes ( Right Hand Drive )
BMW 323i
Series 3' E90
Body Sedan
Engine N52
Region Europe
Right-hand drive, Transmission: Neutral
Production date November 2005

as usual i see in rheingold it must have ccc but car was bought grabbed
and there was only M-ask devices as display and multimedia too..
am trying to codding but not doing nothing...

is it possible to i can code it without car?? am searching for wiring diagrams to connect directly to laptop rheingold or anything but ... unable to find any information
if anyone can help me with any info i will appreciate and be much thanks for it
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Ista D has block diagrams along with wiring color codes in it
I believe you displayed a diag printout from it in one of the previous
posts .
I would get rid of all the Japanese electronics in that car.
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The 5 series had a distributed system where some of the channel were dordle in the Head Unit . And I think you should take it to the main facility for help
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The 5 series only had that distributed system up until the 2006 to 2008 time frame.
At least in the US.
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The 5 series had a distributed system where some of the channel were dordle in the Head Unit . And I think you should take it to the main facility for help
I have the same thoughts as you!
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Hello, I just bought a 2011 328i two days ago and i ran into a problem with my speakers. it’s making a static noise even when the car is off. the audio sounds perfectly normal but in the background is the static noise. when i turn down the music it’s still there. I checked the amp and there’s no water or visible things wrong with it. I was wondering if it could be a weak battery causing this?
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CAN Network

Have you ever tried to change de fiber optic CAN to position 3-4?
May be the radios is just closing the loop for can but not connecting with the network.
in your female connector i not see the pins 10 & 16, i must ask, do you have an amplifier?, if yes, you have an CAN issue
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Radio or Amp going bad .
It's always a good idea to check the battery voltage before you do anything on these. And after you finish working on them if you don't disconnect the battery. Reseating connectors might help but I wouldn't change the position of anything if it was working before the problem started.
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