[0700700]

Originally Posted by Squawks

If you read up on SMG, the "jerkiness" only applies to amateur drivers.

yes it does no jerkiness around here

[Superturismo]

I still dream it's true every nite.

I don't know how to drive manual. I swear to myself I will someday learn even if(when) I go with an SMG. I can use the excuse that it's for my girlfriend but who am i kidding. I'll let her drive around the block maybe the first day (in auto mode). Honestly, I guess I kinda want it cause i'm lazy sometimes. But who knows maybe i'll learn to drive standard and never look back but for now I guess i'm stuck with step. I always saw my SMG dream synonymous to my dreams of ///M. It would be nice to have 325/330 SMG but I doubt it especially the 325. But atleast the dream ain't dead.

[0700700]

hey guys if smg is now available on the 330i we reckon we should go visit the nearest bmw dealer :mad:

[lux.sh]

^ im with you.

never going to buy first year bmw ever again. I swear.. this friggin sucks.
after "post-sept" enhancements, 335, now SMG for the 330i....

all those crap, exactly what I wanted. this is really pissing me off.

[Ethirtynine]

Can I get some information that's Official, please!!

[cntlaw]

I only speak this once.

Order an SMG option (if exists) on a E90 330i is a waste of money unless the whole reason you do this is for the sake of you just want to tell people your car has a SMG or you think you will never buy a M3 SMG in your life and want to try and feel what it is like on your 330i.
Reasons:-
1. The best power efficiency transamission for the 330i is Manual.
2. The M3 E46 SMG II sucks , terrible jerks, outdated technology anyway.
3. I do not think you will get a M3 E46 SMG II on a 330i, you might get a rubblish version of SMG which has less programme modes i.e. less fun.
4. 330i is not a fast car, it makes no difference if you have a better transmission system. The Auto is already 6 speed , it is smooth and very efficiency.

Even you get a 310hp 335i (if exists), ditto.

[E90Fleet]

Sounds very strange to me

Why would they suddenly release SMG when the coupe is supposed to launch ZSG ?

Also in the beginning when they tested SMG in the E90 the parts were listed on the dealers parts system, but they removed them in January 2006 from that system.

I wonder if that price is actually for ZSG, but your oder is going to be delayed untill its available ???

We need Speedfreak and his dealer info.

[lux.sh]

Originally Posted by cntlaw

2. The M3 E46 SMG II sucks , terrible jerks, outdated technology anyway.
3. I do not think you will get a M3 E46 SMG II on a 330i, you might get a rubblish version of SMG which has less programme modes i.e. less fun.
4. 330i is not a fast car, it makes no difference if you have a better transmission system. The Auto is already 6 speed , it is smooth and very efficiency.

Even you get a 310hp 335i (if exists), ditto.

2. jerking issue has been mentioned above.
3. We wouldn't know until we actually get one.
4. slow car doesn't mean it doesn't need a better tranny. Better tranny will result in better drivetrain efficiency, translates into more power, and faster shifting via SMG tranny will result it overall better performance and straight away performance.

[3aficionado]

I always liked Tom Purves’ take on manual transmissions. "There's a great affection for the traditional manual gearbox among many enthusiasts. But only in the United States. Europe is more focused on Formula One, with the faster paddle shifters. In the U.S., the pinnacle of motor sports is NASCAR, and they have four on the floor. The Hollywood image of a race car driver is him shifting down here[pointing to a manual shift lever]"

[Hula-Hula]

wow, I'd love SMG in a 325i here in europe... Maybe we can hear more about this at geneva... I'm hoping launch-control! lol

[hotsand5]

launch control for Europe very possible. The M5, Ferrari's, maserati's, etc., all have launch control for the european versions. None of those offer them for the US. I wonder why?

[Reckamech]

This news of the SMG being avaliable on the 330 should be of no suprise to us. Does anyone remember the spy pic that was put out about a year ago even before the E90 was realeased, it was a protoype interior shot of the 3 series with the SMG?

[E90]

I read that SMG is actually Italian made Magneti Marelli for Alfa Romeo .It was called Selespeed.BMW is getting the ZSG.

[M3ti Compact]

If you want the fast shifts that SMG can give you, then you can't complain about it's smoothness.

Also, you can't compare SMG to manual- SMG will pull off perfect shifts every time- and also blip the throttle on downshift for you at any speed- which is near impossible for a human to do perfectly without full braking.

And about efficiency- SMG and Manual are practically the same design- the difference in efficiency between the two in terms of power is neglegable if any.

[LEDZEP]

Funny, I was sitting at my CA's desk yesterday just shooting the shit with her and browsing (and drooling) through the 6 Series brochure. I asked her if the M3 will have SMG and she said yes, but probably as an option. She also indicated that no other E90 variation would have that option.

Solution: buy an M6 or an M5.

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by E90

I read that SMG is actually Italian made Magneti Marelli for Alfa Romeo .It was called Selespeed.BMW is getting the ZSG.

BMW's SMG design in produced by ZF and has nothing to do wiht the Alfa system.

ZSG is also apparently made by ZF and is a completely new system

[E90Fleet]

Originally Posted by Reckamech

This news of the SMG being avaliable on the 330 should be of no suprise to us. Does anyone remember the spy pic that was put out about a year ago even before the E90 was realeased, it was a protoype interior shot of the 3 series with the SMG?

Yes, and it was on the parts sytem, but SMG was then cancelled on the E90


I seriously doubt its comming out.
Maybe they forgot to change it to ZSG on the order system

[desinole]

I think personally manual (human) operated transmissions will become rare within 10 years.

LOL

Funny comment of the day.

[Squawks]

There are two funny observations I have noticed about the SMG:

1) All the people who bash the SMG are those who have either a) never driven SMG in their lives or b) are amateurs (i.e. have not driven SMG for more than 100 hours). These people are quite conspicuous because if they say SMG is a 'jerky' transmission, they obviously don't know what they're talking about...or, worst yet, they never suceed in learning how to properly use SMG.
2) All of the people I know who have went to SMG in the 5 series and/or the M series have never gone back to manual. SMG-I on the last E46 model simply sucked - read up on all the technical problems.

[0700700]

Originally Posted by cntlaw

2. The M3 E46 SMG II sucks , terrible jerks, outdated technology anyway.

you seem like you know alot about smg in the m3 e46. Well dont make me laugh with your stupid comments. Go get the car and drive it , then come back

[Ethirtynine]

Ive never tried SMG so I don't have an opinion about it. What i'm really concerned about is if it's available or not.

The title of this thread really got my attention because I ordered an E90 just two weeks ago. But to my disappointment it's just another "I heard this I heard that" thread. If it's not official, please shut the fuck up. Sorry for my English, but it's just ridiculous that there's no credibility to half of the information here on E90post.

[blueStreak]

Originally Posted by cntlaw

I only speak this once.

Order an SMG option (if exists) on a E90 330i is a waste of money unless the whole reason you do this is for the sake of you just want to tell people your car has a SMG or you think you will never buy a M3 SMG in your life and want to try and feel what it is like on your 330i.
Reasons:-
1. The best power efficiency transamission for the 330i is Manual.
2. The M3 E46 SMG II sucks , terrible jerks, outdated technology anyway.
3. I do not think you will get a M3 E46 SMG II on a 330i, you might get a rubblish version of SMG which has less programme modes i.e. less fun.
4. 330i is not a fast car, it makes no difference if you have a better transmission system. The Auto is already 6 speed , it is smooth and very efficiency.

Even you get a 310hp 335i (if exists), ditto.

Huh? You don't have any idea what an SMG transmission is, do you?