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Criminal charges should be filed. Stewart is finished in racing. | 30 | 11.15% | |
Should lose a lawsuit, but Stewart can salvage his career. | 8 | 2.97% | |
Tragic accident, blame on both sides. | 68 | 25.28% | |
Jeff Ward shouldn't have walked on the track. | 163 | 60.59% | |
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08-10-2014, 03:51 PM | #25 | |
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It was an accident, for sure, and I think whether Tony was showboating or not is academic at this point, if he was going slower this kid probably would have still been killed (I hate to say that) |
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08-10-2014, 04:01 PM | #26 |
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This is obvious. But one ignorant action doesn't absolve someone of culpability for a criminal act that follows. (I'm not saying Stewart's action was conclusively criminal.)
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Wasn't there a camera on Tony's car of some sort, I wonder? I'm sure it was confiscated, if so.
At first I thought he must have been looking @ Ward's car looking for him there & goosed the throttle while he was looking in the direction of the car--when he was right in front of him... Very, very sad & I'm sure Stewart is sick--he'll need to live w/ that the rest of his life.
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08-10-2014, 04:38 PM | #31 | |
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And no one is going to convince me Tony is at fault at all for this unless there is something more than the video being circulated around. Rev or not, Tony did not deviate drastically off his driving line to hit Ward. Had Ward been standing near his car pointing at him and Tony hit him, yes, Tony would be 100% liable. The fact Ward thought it was ok not only to leave his vehicle but to purposely walk towards the driving line on a hot race track is 100% his fault. Freak things happen on a race track and all these drivers knows the risk. Heck, I know the risks when I get onto a race track and when I sign that waiver form. |
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08-10-2014, 04:47 PM | #32 | |
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Ward had absolutely NO business walking onto the track like he did. I've been to a few of these types of races, and honestly this happens quite often. One time, I literally saw two drivers pull down onto the apron, get our of their cars, and start fist fighting while the race was still going on. This was in Roanoke, VA around 1996. |
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08-10-2014, 04:58 PM | #33 |
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First thought Ward was doing the dance (spectators love) and Stewart miscalculated his counter-move. Figure Stewart has incredible eyesight even through a dirty visor.
I also think lighting wasn't an issue, if anything the lighting was perfect. Now I think Ward is a stupid MF'er. For a second his driving suit seems to blend in to his ride as he steps in front of it. And then he appears to pop out from the blue car in front of Stewart - I think Stewart tried to avoid Ward. Wondering who was wearing a GoPro. I feel bad for Stewart - he should have raced today. |
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08-10-2014, 05:30 PM | #35 |
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See the point I've been trying to make is the amount of throttling done in Sprint Series. Well, there's a lot. He was throttling the car not for malicious intent but because that's what they do. You hear revs and you detect acceleration and yadayadayada. Fine.
He's been around for a while. This was not murder. This was not a vet scaring a newb. This was an accident. Plain and simple: tragic accident. Sometimes it's hard not to make sense of these things without pointing blame. I get that. But it does neither party justice. Lets just take it as an accident and a tragic loss of life and sympathize with Tony (Imagine what's going through his head right now) instead of all the conjecture and finger pointing. I'll get off my high horse now |
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I will say in a race red mist takes over a lot of drivers and leads to stupid, regrettable behavior. But I believe Stewart being an a old vet has more control than that despite his reputation. He had nothing to gain and everything to lose. I have a feeling Stewart will say he didn't see him until the last second. Look at how visibility is minimized by the right side wing endplate, it's like driving with a 4x8 plywood blinder on your right side.
Terrifying to see Ward's body twisted like that, the safety workers look tells the story that he was likely dead already. Even though the yellow flag was out the cars were still doing what looks like 60 mph, Ward may have gotten knocked under by the anti-overlap bar and wrapped under the rear wheel, and then throw. A horrible, sad accident. I'll be interested and surely shocked by what the press and public who don't know racing turn this into. We love destroying celebrities, especially ones with a history of bad behavior. Stewart is not going to be the same person after this. http://jalopnik.com/what-we-dont-kno...-cr-1619025270
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I don't see how you can also make the claim Tony was traveling faster than other cars circulating around the track. Also everyone who is pointing fault at Tony seem to conveniently ignore how #45 had to avoid Ward as Ward stormed into the path of traffic. I'm no Stewart fan boy. In fact I think any racer who gets sucked into NASCAR sold themselves out for made for TV racing. I'm looking at this as a racing fan and as someone who has been on track who has avoided crashes and been in one. |
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08-10-2014, 05:44 PM | #38 | |
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Hopefully some clearer footage comes out. In the end it will be almost impossible to prove anything either way. Last edited by Gossypiboma; 08-10-2014 at 05:49 PM.. |
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08-10-2014, 07:43 PM | #39 |
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If Tony didn't intentionally run over Ward, he'll have some mental challenges but should be able bounce back.
Valentino Rossi had to deal with running over Marco Simoncelli killing him. The worst part of the whole thing, they were very good friends. Rossi was able to bounce back and he's doing well in the series. |
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More than his mental well being and conscious, he'll have other challenges, sponsorship, legal, civil proceedings, a public investigation, the media...because this isn't going to be as clear of a racing accident as Simoncelli's was. There was no finger pointing or blame then, just a straight up tragedy.
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I just find it pretty ironic that Stewart was the one who made him spin out and then he's the one who hit him. I've watched the video a bunch of times. Why were the other drivers able to avoid him? I don't know. Just seems he was trying to scare him and it went horribly wrong. Stewart will be the only one that knows the truth.
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Also, enough of the silliness arguing if Tony wanted to kill Ward. This isn't Mad Max or the Thunderdome. Of course he was only trying to scare him and screwed up majorly. Both at fault, Tony is not 100% innocent, guy drove faster than the other drivers and closer to Ward when it all could've been avoided. |
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Learn to drive a sprint car and then make a proper judgment.
The media is making Tony Stewart out to be this huge villain, but until you learn to drive a sprint car, don't make a judgment on if he was right or wrong |
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