SPEC stage 3+ for 335xi review

shushikiary · 01-15-2016, 12:02 PM

Yes, everyone above is correct. The old DMFW has that pilot shaft in it to mate into the pilot bearing on the transmission shaft. You need to press the center short shaft sticking out of that setup out, and then press it into the center hole of the SMFW.

Wizzer · 01-15-2016, 12:59 PM

thx guys!!! always nice to have u around

. Cant wait to breakin the clutch and try it with our Canadian winters

jtswole · 01-15-2016, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Why does SPEC not have that pin pressed in when they manufacture it? kinda of a pita to have to go buy a press in the middle of the install.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 01-15-2016, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jtswole

Why does SPEC not have that pin pressed in when they manufacture it? kinda of a pita to have to go buy a press in the middle of the install.

Hmm that's a question for Spec but any shop would have a press on hand and if your doing it at home I'm sure a local shop would happily do it for a $20.

jtswole · 01-15-2016, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Hmm that's a question for Spec but any shop would have a press on hand and if your doing it at home I'm sure a local shop would happily do it for a $20.

I did it on a Sunday and the 3 shops we found with a press, wouldn't touch it. So I bought a 20 ton from Harbor freight lol

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 01-15-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jtswole

I did it on a Sunday and the 3 shops we found with a press, wouldn't touch it. So I bought a 20 ton from Harbor freight lol

Why wouldn't they do it? It's such a brainless job and easy money.

shushikiary · 01-15-2016, 07:09 PM

I was running into the same problem pressing poly mounts into my control arms. No one with a press wanted to touch it, so I bought the 20 ton press from harbor freight as well. Perhaps a liability issue or something?

Evil///M · 01-15-2016, 09:53 PM

How is that modified tune?
Some reason the OTS E30 map feels like it has more low-end than my wedge/bq tune....

jtswole · 01-16-2016, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Why wouldn't they do it? It's such a brainless job and easy money.

Liability issues they said lol.

shushikiary · 01-19-2016, 10:29 AM

The tune is great, but I did spend almost 100 revisions of it fine tuning the PID for my self. Many things on it are changed. Sense I'm at altitude I re-scaled the WGDC base table, as well as the P and I tables and then poked them until I got what I wanted. Several other tables I also re-scaled and then modified as well.

After all that it works great. My only complaint is that even with a 3.0 boost multiplier the car still only targets around 20 PSI at this altitude, when in reality to match many other people who target 20 PSI at sea level it should be targeting 22 PSI (which it can because at this altitude the TMAP doesnt max out until 23 or so PSI).

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 01-19-2016, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jtswole

Liability issues they said lol.

That's when you pay cash and say just do it. No paper trail. LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by shushikiary

I was running into the same problem pressing poly mounts into my control arms. No one with a press wanted to touch it, so I bought the 20 ton press from harbor freight as well. Perhaps a liability issue or something?

I guess times have changed. By me the guys are bit more old skool.

I think you can rent a press from autozone and parts stores like that.

shushikiary · 01-19-2016, 06:22 PM

Lawyertocracy FTW?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 01-20-2016, 08:22 AM

Thanks for the review..

Mike

DS3IAM · 04-13-2018, 09:09 AM

Bumping up for the status .. How is the clutch feeling and doing since the install?

Quick335XI · 04-16-2018, 09:02 AM

I also went with Spec3+ and agree with all the points you made except ones relating to install since I don’t work on cars anymore.

The chatter was so low I was excited at first. And yes now it’s fairly loud like it I’m going through a drive thru. But, as long as I don’t hear t in the car...

I’m still having to push my clutch almost all the way to the floor, just like when I had the stock one. Kinda disappointed in that. Was hoping it was the Work stocker.

Yea it’s very grabby and that’s great. I also have some difficultly in first from a stop in everyday driving if rpm < 1000 but that’s no buggy eitherits nice knowing I have the strongest clutch out there since I’m putting down around 550 now.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 04-17-2018, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Quick335XI

I also went with Spec3+ and agree with all the points you made except ones relating to install since I don’t work on cars anymore.

The chatter was so low I was excited at first. And yes now it’s fairly loud like it I’m going through a drive thru. But, as long as I don’t hear t in the car...

I’m still having to push my clutch almost all the way to the floor, just like when I had the stock one. Kinda disappointed in that. Was hoping it was the Work stocker.

Yea it’s very grabby and that’s great. I also have some difficultly in first from a stop in everyday driving if rpm < 1000 but that’s no buggy eitherits nice knowing I have the strongest clutch out there since I’m putting down around 550 now.

01-15-2016, 12:02 PM	#23
shushikiary Private First Class 51 Rep 166 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: denver iTrader: (2)	Yes, everyone above is correct. The old DMFW has that pilot shaft in it to mate into the pilot bearing on the transmission shaft. You need to press the center short shaft sticking out of that setup out, and then press it into the center hole of the SMFW. __________________ BMS DCI, BMS OCC, VRSF stepped 5" FMIC, VRSF CP, VRSF DP's, SPEC stage 3+ and SMFW, PRW stage 3 LPFP, MHD custom E85 tune, solid motor mounts, RB PCV valve, SS brake lines, Prospeed RS683 brake fluid, Strongflex poly bushings, VTT inlets, M3 rear control arms, ECS trailing arms, turbo smart DV's, CP-E PI, VTT HS CP, UUC short shifter, custom solid transfer-case mount, RBTurbo vacuum side OCC, PRW upgraded ignition coils.
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Wizzer Private 11 Rep 77 Posts Drives: None Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Montréal iTrader: (0)	thx guys!!! always nice to have u around . Cant wait to breakin the clutch and try it with our Canadian winters
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01-15-2016, 07:09 PM	#29
shushikiary Private First Class 51 Rep 166 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: denver iTrader: (2)	I was running into the same problem pressing poly mounts into my control arms. No one with a press wanted to touch it, so I bought the 20 ton press from harbor freight as well. Perhaps a liability issue or something? __________________ BMS DCI, BMS OCC, VRSF stepped 5" FMIC, VRSF CP, VRSF DP's, SPEC stage 3+ and SMFW, PRW stage 3 LPFP, MHD custom E85 tune, solid motor mounts, RB PCV valve, SS brake lines, Prospeed RS683 brake fluid, Strongflex poly bushings, VTT inlets, M3 rear control arms, ECS trailing arms, turbo smart DV's, CP-E PI, VTT HS CP, UUC short shifter, custom solid transfer-case mount, RBTurbo vacuum side OCC, PRW upgraded ignition coils.
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01-15-2016, 09:53 PM	#30
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01-19-2016, 10:29 AM	#32
shushikiary Private First Class 51 Rep 166 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: denver iTrader: (2)	The tune is great, but I did spend almost 100 revisions of it fine tuning the PID for my self. Many things on it are changed. Sense I'm at altitude I re-scaled the WGDC base table, as well as the P and I tables and then poked them until I got what I wanted. Several other tables I also re-scaled and then modified as well. After all that it works great. My only complaint is that even with a 3.0 boost multiplier the car still only targets around 20 PSI at this altitude, when in reality to match many other people who target 20 PSI at sea level it should be targeting 22 PSI (which it can because at this altitude the TMAP doesnt max out until 23 or so PSI). __________________ BMS DCI, BMS OCC, VRSF stepped 5" FMIC, VRSF CP, VRSF DP's, SPEC stage 3+ and SMFW, PRW stage 3 LPFP, MHD custom E85 tune, solid motor mounts, RB PCV valve, SS brake lines, Prospeed RS683 brake fluid, Strongflex poly bushings, VTT inlets, M3 rear control arms, ECS trailing arms, turbo smart DV's, CP-E PI, VTT HS CP, UUC short shifter, custom solid transfer-case mount, RBTurbo vacuum side OCC, PRW upgraded ignition coils.
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01-19-2016, 06:22 PM	#34
shushikiary Private First Class 51 Rep 166 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: denver iTrader: (2)	Lawyertocracy FTW? __________________ BMS DCI, BMS OCC, VRSF stepped 5" FMIC, VRSF CP, VRSF DP's, SPEC stage 3+ and SMFW, PRW stage 3 LPFP, MHD custom E85 tune, solid motor mounts, RB PCV valve, SS brake lines, Prospeed RS683 brake fluid, Strongflex poly bushings, VTT inlets, M3 rear control arms, ECS trailing arms, turbo smart DV's, CP-E PI, VTT HS CP, UUC short shifter, custom solid transfer-case mount, RBTurbo vacuum side OCC, PRW upgraded ignition coils.
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01-20-2016, 08:22 AM	#35
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04-13-2018, 09:09 AM	#36
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04-16-2018, 09:02 AM	#37
Quick335XI First Lieutenant 116 Rep 332 Posts Drives: 2010 335xi Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Dallas iTrader: (0)	I also went with Spec3+ and agree with all the points you made except ones relating to install since I don’t work on cars anymore. The chatter was so low I was excited at first. And yes now it’s fairly loud like it I’m going through a drive thru. But, as long as I don’t hear t in the car... I’m still having to push my clutch almost all the way to the floor, just like when I had the stock one. Kinda disappointed in that. Was hoping it was the Work stocker. Yea it’s very grabby and that’s great. I also have some difficultly in first from a stop in everyday driving if rpm < 1000 but that’s no buggy eitherits nice knowing I have the strongest clutch out there since I’m putting down around 550 now.
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