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      04-27-2009, 10:11 AM   #23
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Why would BMW not make these for the E92 ? Seems stupid !
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      04-27-2009, 12:43 PM   #24
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Why would BMW not make these for the E92 ? Seems stupid !
But they do.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=tischer
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      04-27-2009, 02:18 PM   #25
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according to the new bmw performance catalogue kidney grilles in black high gloss left for coupe and convertible part no 51712155451 £35 and right 51712155450 £35 inc vat
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      04-27-2009, 02:23 PM   #26
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okay - my mistake!

But real oem doesnt list them (or i can't find it)

anyhow - get them ordered!!!
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      04-27-2009, 02:45 PM   #27
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Before and after pics below. I think they'll grow on me. Would prob look better on a dark car, but at least it's the last bit of chrome gone from the body work and it ties in with the lower black grills too.

Not bad for £42 genuine BMW!
I am in two minds.

I like the chrome grills as it's just for for the 6cyl models.

But, as you say that's the last bit of chrome replaced to match the M Sport black exterior trim.

Agree - good price.
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      04-27-2009, 04:40 PM   #28
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even better if you use chris odea.......
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      04-27-2009, 05:18 PM   #29
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So do I order these at my local stealers or is there a webby ?
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I am in two minds.

I like the chrome grills as it's just for for the 6cyl models.
My though on this is that only 'enthusiasts' actually know that chrome grills means 6cylinder engine, your chrome twin exhausts are also only on 325/330, the same people would also appreciate that the all black gloss-edged grill are the more rare BMW performance options. Overall the black grills are very subtle, no one at work or friends have noticed yet.


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even better if you use chris odea.......
But he paints them doesn't he? Prone to chips i reckon. If he does them for less than £40, then he's got too much time on his hands!!!


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So do I order these at my local stealers or is there a webby ?
I just phoned the dealers part dept, in the next day, they now confirm delivery by text! Payment on collection.
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      04-28-2009, 04:45 AM   #31
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But he paints them doesn't he? Prone to chips i reckon. If he does them for less than £40, then he's got too much time on his hands!!!
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ummmm....dont know what youre on about but the chris im talking about is a main dealer parts department guy who's number is on one of the stickys in the uk forum....

gives great discount and delivery on main dealer parts.
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ummmm....dont know what youre on about but the chris im talking about is a main dealer parts department guy who's number is on one of the stickys in the uk forum....

gives great discount and delivery on main dealer parts.
Ahhhh....

I thought it was the name of the guy on here who is spraying up peoples grills by hand.....
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      04-28-2009, 05:30 AM   #33
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anyhow...i sprayed my grilles using plasti dip(£18) ......lasts long and fully reversible:happyim:
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      04-28-2009, 10:02 AM   #34
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Have changed mine to the black ones but had the outers colour coded

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Seen that done on the US forum, and I think it looks great, really suits the car
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I must say the black grills look pretty good, but if I’m honest with you, a good looking BMW like yours (and many others) could virtually have any colour (within reason) grills on it and it would look good.

I have contemplated putting black grills on my car, but looked at it and realised how good it looked with the original chromes ones on.

I wonder, if all BMW’s came fitted with black grills as standard, would everyone be creaming their knickers the minute someone fitted chrome grills.

As mentioned above I think black grills look really good, but I think its purely a case of something different and not anything better.
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I must say the black grills look pretty good, but if I’m honest with you, a good looking BMW like yours (and many others) could virtually have any colour (within reason) grills on it and it would look good.

I have contemplated putting black grills on my car, but looked at it and realised how good it looked with the original chromes ones on.

I wonder, if all BMW’s came fitted with black grills as standard, would everyone be creaming their knickers the minute someone fitted chrome grills.

As mentioned above I think black grills look really good, but I think its purely a case of something different and not anything better.
I defo agree, and personally I like the effect of black grilles on an M-sport car that is already minus the window trims, etc.

On an SE car, the chrome looks more 'classy' and in keeping with the 'luxury' effect. A lot of sport models (not just BMW bit Audi, etc.) are de-chromed, and removing the chrome grille finishes the effect. I also love the black grilles that are fitted to some Audi A3's and A4's.

I also think the car's colour has a lot to do with it. I am not a fan of chrome on white cars. I already have the carbon outer/black slat grille waiting to go on the M as soon as it arrives, and already have the matt black wing/fender grilles to replace the OEM chrome ones. If the car had been black, I would keep the chrome side grilles as they would stand out more.

It is all down to one's personal taste and just trying to make their car that little bit different to how it left the factory.
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I know there's some people on here who've made their own satin black grills.

But I just ordered the new BMW performance black grills from the performance aerodynamics range (from the dealers parts dept). In stock for delivery Wednesday!

Guess how much? (Genuine OEM remember, 2 year guarantee and ready to fit)

£21.95 each with VAT. BARGAIN!!!!!!!!!

part numbers (for LCI E90/E91)

51712146911 (left)
51712146912 (right)

Lets hope they look as good as they do in the catalogue.
Where did you find them so cheap, cause they're much more expensive here in Norway, they even cost more in the US at Tischer's, $55 each.
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      04-29-2009, 02:17 AM   #39
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Where did you find them so cheap, cause they're much more expensive here in Norway, they even cost more in the US at Tischer's, $55 each.
I just called the regular BMW parts department at my local dealership. That price will be UK wide standard, including next day delivery to the dealers for you to collect.
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I wonder, if all BMW’s came fitted with black grills as standard, would everyone be creaming their knickers the minute someone fitted chrome grills.

As mentioned above I think black grills look really good, but I think its purely a case of something different and not anything better.
My pants are spotless thank you ;-)

Agree - they are just subtley different - that's the point IMO. If my wife or mother noticed then I'd be gutted and have to take them off straight away.

They don't jar or stand out much, maybe enough to get a second glance - but only from people who either own a 3er or are reasonably interested in motors.

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I just called the regular BMW parts department at my local dealership. That price will be UK wide standard, including next day delivery to the dealers for you to collect.
Weird that BMW UK sells them that cheap, but good for you.
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I know there's some people on here who've made their own satin black grills.

But I just ordered the new BMW performance black grills from the performance aerodynamics range (from the dealers parts dept). In stock for delivery Wednesday!

Guess how much? (Genuine OEM remember, 2 year guarantee and ready to fit)

£21.95 each with VAT. BARGAIN!!!!!!!!!

part numbers (for LCI E90/E91)

51712146911 (left)
51712146912 (right)

Lets hope they look as good as they do in the catalogue.

Anyone know if they'll fit a Jan 2008 320d (177) ?
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      04-29-2009, 11:34 AM   #43
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Anyone know if they'll fit a Jan 2008 320d (177) ?
No, LCI e90 grill woundn't fit the 2008 e90.

For that you need the new black grill with these part numbers.

51712151895 and 51712151896, plus the two pieces on the hood with numbers 51712151897 and 51712151898.
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No, LCI e90 grill woundn't fit the 2008 e90.

For that you need the new black grill with these part numbers.

51712151895 and 51712151896, plus the two pieces on the hood with numbers 51712151897 and 51712151898.
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