EPL Turbo Upgrade

jpsimon · 07-10-2010, 12:12 AM

I picked up around ~35-40awhp/55-60awtq (mustang) or so peak. the big difference is up top where the stock turbos fell flat, these hold more boost to redline. it pulls so hard up top towards 7k rpms

gian335 · 07-10-2010, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

I picked up around ~35-40awhp/50-55awtq (mustang) or so peak. the big difference is up top where the stock turbos fell flat, these hold more boost to redline. it pulls so hard up top towards 7k rpms

the main reason I went for these turbos arent just the added power, but more power to redline. Id rather have more consistent power through the power band and up top. Not too mention Id have to run race gas to run 18 psi +...or just risk my turbos and retard timing lol.

With stock turbos I would shift at around 6200 rpm on my auto tranny .Im wondering how much these turbos will be tapering too. 12-13 psi for AT?

jpsimon · 07-10-2010, 12:38 AM

not sure, I run ~17.5+ to redline on 93 octane on my 6MT

Alpina_B3_Lux · 07-10-2010, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Trojan4evr

^^ good point. I remember reading about it on one of the threads. I'm targetting for 420hp rwhp which I think TD stage 1 is good for, right?

The hp depend on your mods and also the dyno you measure it on, but TD stage 1 is done by the same principles as the EPL turbo upgrade.

I won't say that you NEED a wastegate upgrade, but as it's a known weakness of the N54 I believe it's a good idea to improve these at the same time; at least if you want to keep your car for a longer period of time. Remember: If you don't have wastegate problems now, that does not mean you'll never have them - and then you'll have to go through the trouble of removing the turbos again and having work done on them.

Alpina_B3_Lux

Trojan4evr · 07-10-2010, 01:02 PM

^^ I totally agree. the only thing that scares the hell outta me is the work that has to be done on the oil and water lines to fit the TD upgrades. Any body knows a good mechanic that can do extensive work on N54 in Socal?

Alpina_B3_Lux · 07-12-2010, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Trojan4evr

^^ I totally agree. the only thing that scares the hell outta me is the work that has to be done on the oil and water lines to fit the TD upgrades. Any body knows a good mechanic that can do extensive work on N54 in Socal?

But that only applies to the stage 2 upgrade. For the stage 1 upgrade (which is more or less the same as the one EPL is offering) you can use the stock lines and it's basically plug & play.

Alpina_B3_Lux

Asofi · 07-19-2010, 07:53 PM

What's the probability of a 335 with upgraded turbos to beat an m3 in a straight line?

Forcefed3 · 07-19-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Asofi

What's the probability of a 335 with upgraded turbos to beat an m3 in a straight line?

very very good chance. And if not, then add downpipes and intake and youve got it.

gian335 · 07-19-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Asofi

What's the probability of a 335 with upgraded turbos to beat an m3 in a straight line?

probability? its fact!!! All you need is tune,dps,intake, FMIC and youll be taking m3's all day in a straight line. With meth, an m3 would have no chance.

with upgraded turbos its even worse. the m3 has to be boosted or atleast full bolt ons.

ultimateendz · 07-19-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gian335

probability? its fact!!! All you need is tune,dps,intake, FMIC and youll be taking m3's all day in a straight line. With meth, an m3 would have no chance.

with upgraded turbos its even worse. the m3 has to be boosted or atleast full bolt ons.

+1 t minus 4 days till my car gets it's upgrade

ridin135 · 07-19-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Asofi

What's the probability of a 335 with upgraded turbos to beat an m3 in a straight line?

I can 100% guaruntee an upgraded turbo car would destroy a bolted on m3. A tune only car can take the m3 up to 120 after that you need dp's, intercooler, and more boost. A supercharged m3 vs an upgraded turbo n54 would be interesting to see.

ultimateendz · 07-19-2010, 09:18 PM

Yep....if my heavy ass e93 can walk away from an m3 now...I will embarrass one in about a week...but yea....would be interesting to see a boosted m3 vs an upgraded turbo n54

a32guy · 07-19-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ultimateendz

+1 t minus 4 days till my car gets it's upgrade

Can't wait to see when you get back on the dyno!! Good meeting you the other day.

BrianMN · 07-19-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

very very good chance. And if not, then add downpipes and intake and youve got it.

Ehhhhhh, Turbo upgrades cost a lot of $$$...I doubt people would have enough money left over to buy downpipes and an intake...

They'll probably just run bone stock everything with just the turbo upgrades.

Forcefed3 · 07-19-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianMN

Ehhhhhh, Turbo upgrades cost a lot of $$$...I doubt people would have enough money left over to buy downpipes and an intake...

They'll probably just run bone stock everything with just the turbo upgrades.

How much are we talking

wareagle900 · 07-20-2010, 12:04 AM

stage one turbo dynamics cost $971 and claims a 50 to 60 bhp increase.

this is for parts only of course.

Misturrtinnie · 07-20-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wareagle900

stage one turbo dynamics cost $971 and claims a 50 to 60 bhp increase.

this is for parts only of course.

Thats not bad. Link of this?

wareagle900 · 07-20-2010, 12:48 AM

http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/acata...5i_Hybrids.pdf

there you go!

stage 1: 50 - 60 bhp increase*

Overhaul: £750 = $971

New replacements: £1995 = $2584

stage 2: 100+ bhp increase*

Overhaul: £1695 = $2195

New replacements: £2995 = $3879

* Estimated

creaminz · 07-20-2010, 01:01 AM

so we send out set of turbos to TD and they will rebuild for $971, and if we want to get a set of upgraded turbos from TD, it's $2584?

jpsimon · 07-20-2010, 01:23 AM

that pricing is per turbo, multiply it by 2 and consider international shipping costs. it gets very pricey for US customers. that's why I went with EPL

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Originally Posted by wareagle900

http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/acata...5i_Hybrids.pdf

there you go!

stage 1: 50 - 60 bhp increase*

Overhaul: £750 = $971

New replacements: £1995 = $2584

stage 2: 100+ bhp increase*

Overhaul: £1695 = $2195

New replacements: £2995 = $3879

* Estimated

TurboBimmer · 07-20-2010, 01:25 AM

The quoted price is for one turbo only, and does not include VAT.

Edit: jp was faster ;-)

wareagle900 · 07-20-2010, 01:31 AM

ah i wasnt sure of this from the pdf... i will edit post now.

Prices updated!

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wareagle900 Banned 30 Rep 413 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South East Alabama iTrader: (0)	stage one turbo dynamics cost $971 and claims a 50 to 60 bhp increase. this is for parts only of course.
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wareagle900 Banned 30 Rep 413 Posts Drives: 2006 BMW 330i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South East Alabama iTrader: (0)	http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/acata...5i_Hybrids.pdf there you go! stage 1: 50 - 60 bhp increase* Overhaul: £750 = $971 New replacements: £1995 = $2584 stage 2: 100+ bhp increase* Overhaul: £1695 = $2195 New replacements: £2995 = $3879 * Estimated
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