[cc_25]

Yeah the Ferrari is clearly the choice in an ideal world, because it's A FERRARI, but i believe it's a car that falls into the "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" category. The maintenance on that thing will be through the roof. Regardless of the cost of the car, it will never be a bargain. I imagine the AM is better cost wise, but only when compared to the Ferrari. Still expensive.

But hey, you only live once. Buy the Ferrari!

[mcmastah]

75k for an 02 Ferrari? you get what you pay for .... and the ferrari looks outdated, and so will the aston soon enough

[spacedogg]

About $1500 US for oil change and minor service on a Ferrari in the US.
About $200 US for oil change on Porsche in the US.

$450-600 CDN for oil change on a Porsche in Vancouver.

I'd hate to hear what is the price inflation for service on a Ferrari in Canada.

I'd go pre-owned P-Car. Done and done.

[KJ43]

The Ferrari is a wicked car but like everyone is saying they are crazy to maintain. I was at my mechanic today and he is doing a timing belt on a 360 for a 30,000km service. Has to drop the whole sub-frame and motor just for that. Its like 4k just for a 30,000 service.

The Ferrari and Aston are 2 different classes of car. Hard to choose

[Iluvwhite]

"...Aston Martin is sex on wheels. It's moving art..."

totally agreed!!!

[bunnn]

Originally Posted by slapmyfro

Family friend ordered a f360 from the dealership (when it was available) years ago

never really bothered to look into insurance prices, as money isnt a problem
the car arrived, he called his insurance company who he has over 20 cars through (business), perfect record etc. and when he found out the price of insurance, he didnt take delivery. He actually left the car at the lot and said FU, thats how much it was to insure

Yes it was a new car but still.............

Unfortunately, even if your whole fleet of company vehicles are with an insurance company/broker you don't get a break. Ask me how I know

When I was car shopping 2 years ago, for shits and giggles, I threw an 2005 F430 Coupe into my insurance quote checklist. Between an e9x m3, GTR, C63, C4S, and the F430 - difference was negligible to the buying decision if insurance was the only factor. Granted, the Ferrari was quoted in a different way from the other cars; less KM, and only storage insurance during the winter months.

OP - I'm not sure what you're after for these cars, perhaps a description of what you're after and how you plan to use it will help.

[stizzi]

Originally Posted by bunnn

Unfortunately, even if your whole fleet of company vehicles are with an insurance company/broker you don't get a break. Ask me how I know

When I was car shopping 2 years ago, for shits and giggles, I threw an 2005 F430 Coupe into my insurance quote checklist. Between an e9x m3, GTR, C63, C4S, and the F430 - difference was negligible to the buying decision if insurance was the only factor. Granted, the Ferrari was quoted in a different way from the other cars; less KM, and only storage insurance during the winter months.

OP - I'm not sure what you're after for these cars, perhaps a description of what you're after and how you plan to use it will help.

this is why i'm pretty scared about the insurance.. I have no idea at all what it will run me. In any case, it's only insured for 7-8 months of the year anyways so that's a plus.

I do agree the 360 is outdated, the F430 is out of my budget lol.. they're about $185K. I just want to get from the norm and have a non-daily exotic....

The other poster above was right about the porsche, i know it'll be awesome to drive.. It just looks like a frog. I'm second guessing the AM because I think it'll be outdated once the new models come out.

On top of insurance, the other biggest dealbreaker is the car HAS to hold its value well... in about 3 years I'd want to sell it and not lose too much

[mcmastah]

Originally Posted by stizzi

On top of insurance, the other biggest dealbreaker is the car HAS to hold its value well... in about 3 years I'd want to sell it and not lose too much

I'm sorry but is this even possible with exotics like the AM and 360? Wasn't that AM around 185k brand new CAD? I think you should rather spend 75k on a used remodeled 6 series or an f series m3 in a couple of years ... they will still be considered pretty exotic even then...

[MOAB]

Originally Posted by stizzi

this is why i'm pretty scared about the insurance.. I have no idea at all what it will run me. In any case, it's only insured for 7-8 months of the year anyways so that's a plus.

I do agree the 360 is outdated, the F430 is out of my budget lol.. they're about $185K. I just want to get from the norm and have a non-daily exotic....

The other poster above was right about the porsche, i know it'll be awesome to drive.. It just looks like a frog. I'm second guessing the AM because I think it'll be outdated once the new models come out.

On top of insurance, the other biggest dealbreaker is the car HAS to hold its value well... in about 3 years I'd want to sell it and not lose too much

from the sound of things, you probably can't afford a car like this.

[stizzi]

Originally Posted by MOAB

from the sound of things, you probably can't afford a car like this.

I said I couldn't comfortably purchase a F430... $185K is out of my league.

under a $100K is fine though.

[stizzi]

Originally Posted by mcmastah

I'm sorry but is this even possible with exotics like the AM and 360? Wasn't that AM around 185k brand new CAD? I think you should rather spend 75k on a used remodeled 6 series or an f series m3 in a couple of years ... they will still be considered pretty exotic even then...

yeah AM is expensive brand new... cars usually hold their values after 3-4 years... depreciation hits the hardest in the first few years.

ie. the 360 prices have gone down about $4K since last summer.

[mcmastah]

just get a GTR

[stizzi]

HEY just got a quote on both.. they're about $400 a month which is amazing. no idea how my e93 is is $350+tax when an AM Vantage quote comes out to $400

[aspiring335]

Originally Posted by stizzi

HEY just got a quote on both.. they're about $400 a month which is amazing. no idea how my e93 is is $350+tax when an AM Vantage quote comes out to $400

$350 / month for insurance on an E93? That is crazy.

My car is obviously less powerful, etc., but I only pay just over $110 / month for insurance with a small deductible, full coverage, etc.

[stizzi]

Originally Posted by aspiring335

$350 / month for insurance on an E93? That is crazy.

My car is obviously less powerful, etc., but I only pay just over $110 / month for insurance with a small deductible, full coverage, etc.

that's incredible... $110/month for full coverage??!

[aspiring335]

Originally Posted by stizzi

that's incredible... $110/month for full coverage??!

Actually just checked... My payment is $110 / month, but the annual premium is slightly more than $110 * 12, since they take a double payment for the first one. So I pay about $1,430 a year for full coverage. Had one at-fault claim in 2003, but nothing since then.

[99three]

Originally Posted by TheRox

Seriously guys Aston???

THe moment that Aston martin is outdated in the looks department...you're gonna want to sell it. Its not a great driving car, the 911 is much better (but looks like a frog/doesn't have status which is why its not on your list).

The ferrari will drive well, and hold its status over time. THe Aston is there only because it looks good, it has nothing else going for it. Maybe the interior.


Saw one parked outside today in grey....its not as hot as a Ferrari.



can you bank? is the question.

The 911 looks like a FROG??? Doesn't have the STATUS??? You either have never driven one or read up on the amazing Porsche history. I suggest you drive one...especially the last pf the legendary air cooled Porsche.

[99three]

Originally Posted by stizzi

thanks for the input guys... what do you think the insurance costs on these? I currently pay $394 on my e93 for full insurance.

Insurance is definitely the deal breaker.

Sorry to tell you but you are getting raped. I can sell you my 993 and you would still have some change left over to pay your $5000 a year insurance.
BTW-Insurance on my Pcar is only 1K a year.

[Dr. G]

Why is everyone freaking out over $350 a month insurance?

I would be glad to pay only 350/mth.... coupe 335i at my age = rape insurance.

[shipill]

I used to pay 550/mnt to insure a brand new jetta 1.8T. I was 21 years old !!

[mshahidz]

both cars will depreciate like bricks in the coming years...
the aston will suffer greatly, specially since you would be getting the v8 model in that price range--the v8 was the lesser of engine and was replaced with the v10 or 12, i cant remember. Thats the only reason why you are seeing the AM in that price range anyway, because the engine was a total let down in performance. It will only get worse IMO, probably will be worth ~45-55k in 3 years depending on mileage.

The 360 is going to horrible to maintian, so it should be automatically out of the question.

what you are left with really, are porsches. I've already gone through this scenario just like you lol. The GT3/RS/TT models hold their value well, are low on maintenance and have the "status" you are looking for. There aren't many cars out there that hold their value well---- Best resale I have ever seen for a "normal" car has to be the RS4 though-- over the last 3 years, they are still around 50+. Basically, you cant have the pie and eat it too. If these two cars are the only options, I would take the AM. You cant expect a minimal loss on resale though.

[ns2000x]

Originally Posted by 99three

The 911 looks like a FROG??? Doesn't have the STATUS??? You either have never driven one or read up on the amazing Porsche history. I suggest you drive one...especially the last pf the legendary air cooled Porsche.

Hint. He owns a pcar.