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      02-19-2010, 02:15 PM   #419
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So a 5 gallon per hour nozzle from coolingmist and a 5gallon per hour from snow injection will have different flow? I wold assume 5gallon/hr they would all flow the same. I will place a call to check. Look forward to the dyno's. Do you have 18ohm JB board?
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I installed the Stage 2 meth kit and I'm looking to possibly relocate the pump.
Does anyone know the size of the pressure fit tubing and what it's made from? Nylon, polycarbonate, etc?
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I know for sure Nylon but as for the size its either 1/4 or 1/8
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I know for sure Nylon but as for the size its either 1/4 or 1/8
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I got it.
It's nylon 11, 1/4" tubing.
We should get it rated higher than the max pump psi so anything higher than 220 or 250.

I just ordered 25 ft, but I only need around 10 ft so let me know if anyone needs any.
I ordered black.
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this has helped me a lot with my install, thanks former.
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this has helped me a lot with my install, thanks former.
RevC, I am glad this helped. The Snow stuff is just top notch in everyway. If you need any help dialing it in, let me know.
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I had this marked down as something to do before these hot summer months hit here in AZ, but got sidetracked with school and my 8 week old daughter.

Things still running well with your setup?

Any hiccups along the way?

Do you find yourself constantly monitoring it? The reason I ask is because I don't want to turn my car into something I am constantly stressing over. Been down that road with my last car, a heavily modified WRX (what a waste).

If I can legitimately make an extra safe 25-50 whp without many headaches I will do it because it gets to 120 degrees out here in the summer and lower engine temps can only be helpful.

Is a kit like this something I can dial in and forget about as long as I fill the tank?
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I had this marked down as something to do before these hot summer months hit here in AZ, but got sidetracked with school and my 8 week old daughter.

Things still running well with your setup?

Any hiccups along the way?

Do you find yourself constantly monitoring it? The reason I ask is because I don't want to turn my car into something I am constantly stressing over. Been down that road with my last car, a heavily modified WRX (what a waste).

If I can legitimately make an extra safe 25-50 whp without many headaches I will do it because it gets to 120 degrees out here in the summer and lower engine temps can only be helpful.

Is a kit like this something I can dial in and forget about as long as I fill the tank?
illone, it is one of the true must do mods for this car. I predicted when I installed this for the first time that water/methanol kits would become widespread on the N54 and that is exactly what happened. The cooling and octane enhancement are absolutely incredible. You are correct that you need to make sure you fill the tank when the low level light comes on. Failsafes are wise if you are running very high boost. Other than that, the Snow Performance kit has been a set it and forget it kit. If you read around you will find there have been a lot of problems with some of the other kits, but the Snow Performance kits seem to be performing flawlessly. Their hardware is the best in the business, their pump in the strongest on the market, and their customer service is above a 10. They are just a great company to work with.

The only negative is their SafeInjection needs to be updated to a more friendly version for our tunes. They are working to complete their new unit, but it is not on the market yet.
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Getting mine installed tomorrow.

I'll let you know how things go. Did you end up going with a custom map on yours?

I'm finally going to have the car setup for some logging runs and will get those over to terry for a custom map if need be. Yes, I'm running jb3 2.0 currently.

I figure I'm safe to turn it up to map 7 or even 9 considering the octane boost from the meth as I am stuck here in AZ with crappy 91. I've been on map 5 this whole time and have all other supporting mods.
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Getting mine installed tomorrow.

I'll let you know how things go. Did you end up going with a custom map on yours?

I'm finally going to have the car setup for some logging runs and will get those over to terry for a custom map if need be. Yes, I'm running jb3 2.0 currently.

I figure I'm safe to turn it up to map 7 or even 9 considering the octane boost from the meth as I am stuck here in AZ with crappy 91. I've been on map 5 this whole time and have all other supporting mods.
Congrats!!! In AZ this will make a HUGE difference!

I run map 9 daily and it pulls like a freight train on nitrous.
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Small teaser:

And you CAN close the lid of the ashtray!



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and now im getting a meth kit
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Small teaser:

And you CAN close the lid of the ashtray!



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Alpina, concrats on getting it in there! To me honestly, I could care less about closing it. The ash tray is such a wasted area on this car anyway. LOL!
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and now im getting a meth kit
I think you will really enjoy one.
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      07-22-2010, 07:23 AM   #433
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Alpina, concrats on getting it in there! To me honestly, I could care less about closing it. The ash tray is such a wasted area on this car anyway. LOL!
Thanks!

Yeah I agree about the ashtray, but I find it nice to be able to close it as it's got a stealthier look then. Also, the Bilstein button glows quite brightly in the dark and when driving at night it's nicer to be able to close the lid.

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this is done very nicely! Think I might get a few of my customers on this kit.
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this is done very nicely! Think I might get a few of my customers on this kit.
Thanks! I really like the way my garage did it. I'll post a more detailed review with more photos once I had the opportunity to go on the dyno again with it (probably end of August).

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this is done very nicely! Think I might get a few of my customers on this kit.
Matt, you will be very happy with the quality of the kit. Snow still to this day has the strongest and most robust methanol pump on the market. They just upgraded to new nozzles for better atomization and better fluid flow consistency. They are a great company with a superb product.
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Matt, you will be very happy with the quality of the kit. Snow still to this day has the strongest and most robust methanol pump on the market. They just upgraded to new nozzles for better atomization and better fluid flow consistency. They are a great company with a superb product.
It makes me want to run Meth on the 3.5 in my old heap once the turbo goes in. There is someone running around on the E28 forums with a non intercooled M30 engine with meth and he makes well into the 400 range. He had to fab up his own 5 gallon meth tank in the trunk as it gets consumed very rapidly once the loud pedal is down.

Although I wouldn't be running a turbo setup like his, it's definitely something to look at once everything falls into place.
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It makes me want to run Meth on the 3.5 in my old heap once the turbo goes in. There is someone running around on the E28 forums with a non intercooled M30 engine with meth and he makes well into the 400 range. He had to fab up his own 5 gallon meth tank in the trunk as it gets consumed very rapidly once the loud pedal is down.

Although I wouldn't be running a turbo setup like his, it's definitely something to look at once everything falls into place.
It is almost a no brainer to run water/methanol on a turbo motor. With failsafes, it is just free power.
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It is almost a no brainer to run water/methanol on a turbo motor. With failsafes, it is just free power.
As long as its being used as a power adder and not a bandaid its good in my book LOL
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As long as its being used as a power adder and not a bandaid its good in my book LOL
Matt, methanol does serve a purpose. I am one of the guys that runs nitrous, but only because I think these guys running 18 psi are taking bigger risks that I am willing to take. I run 14 psi, a .31 shot of nitrous, and 1400 ml/min of methanol. I end up with turbos in efficiency range, IATs about 30F below ambient, very good octane enhancement, and about 525 rwhp... on pump gas.
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