[CYL]

Originally Posted by Socket

Was looking at a ER sports series oil cooler but its about $900 plus installation
Might have to get something, my oil temps are around 110 now

I have 120 now... haven't been driving it aggressive but still so high temperature...

[Scotty89]

I would not worry much.

The oil temperature will climb to 120C - 130C in hard conditions, but the manual states that the cooling system only enters protection mode at 150C and a cluster warning will display only once reached 156C.

Apparently the N54 tries to maintain 108C temp in the cylinder head for efficiency.

[Scotty89]

Originally Posted by vtl

You going to go for any cooling upgrades to complement the new turbos? An auto 335i runs hot enough already.

There's some oil cooler upgrades (some even include a proper low temp inline thermostat) available but I haven't seen anything that will fit up without a lot of cutting of the fender liner + air ducts. There's a Mishimoto radiator upgrade but no data on whether its worth buying. There's the OEM PPK cooling bits (upgraded fan + aux water rad) but super expensive for what they are.

A lot of the heat he has now will be generated by running the TD03 turbos well above their optimal efficiency range.

Bigger turbos can move more air volume with less heat/friction.

[vtl]

Originally Posted by Scotty89

A lot of the heat he has now will be generated by running the TD03 turbos well above their optimal efficiency range.

Bigger turbos can move more air volume with less heat/friction.

Sure the turbos will be more efficient but the engine will now probably be producing over 100kw more than the stock engine.

Lets look at the engine from a thermodynamics perspective as a device that converts fuel into energy at a particular efficiency. If you increase the engine's power output by x%, unless you increase the efficiency of the engine by x% the vehicle will definitely be producing much more waste energy as heat.

[Socket]

[bradsm87]

Originally Posted by Socket

Was looking at a ER sports series oil cooler but its about $900 plus installation
Might have to get something, my oil temps are around 110 now

That's the factory oil temperature by design. It needs to be at least 100 for any residual water in the oil to evaporate quickly. Mine's always 110 when fully warmed up and doing anything more than very light driving.

[Socket]

Originally Posted by bradsm87

That's the factory oil temperature by design. It needs to be at least 100 for any residual water in the oil to evaporate quickly.

Seriously? Woah I did not know that Thanks Brad

[NeT335]

Originally Posted by Socket

Mod 31 - Go faster bits

Finally after months of waiting SPCGRY is booked in for RBs, VTT inlets and JD compressor discharge pipe upgrade... Steve and the boys at active are taking care of the install.. more pics to come... CDP not shown

Finally

When is it going to be done?

[Socket]

Originally Posted by GeTiNQ

Finally

When is it going to be done?

Hey InQ Will be all done this time next week

[NeT335]

Originally Posted by Socket

Hey InQ Will be all done this time next week

It's going to be crazy I can't wait to see it

[tawfeeqh]

Originally Posted by Socket

Mod 31 - Go faster bits

Finally after months of waiting SPCGRY is booked in for RBs, VTT inlets and JD compressor discharge pipe upgrade... Steve and the boys at active are taking care of the install.. more pics to come... CDP not shown

looking forward to it socket!!!!

Hit the dyno at springy when you're done with the install. You already have your baseline at 280rwkw (from memory)

good luck - will be a beast

[Socket]

Originally Posted by tawfeeqh

looking forward to it socket!!!!

Hit the dyno at springy when you're done with the install. You already have your baseline at 280rwkw (from memory)

good luck - will be a beast

Thanks mate. Yep I'll be off to Springy to dyno and see the difference. May need to get custom MHD tune not sure if I'll get the best out of the new set up with the OTS MHD maps im running now

[tawfeeqh]

Originally Posted by Socket

Thanks mate. Yep I'll be off to Springy to dyno and see the difference. May need to get custom MHD tune not sure if I'll get the best out of the new set up with the OTS MHD maps on running now

yes for sure - you will need to get a custom map produced by either PTF or Wedge. I think its just a personal preference who who go with. I have had a good experience getting my car dialed in with Wedge

[_ink]

Originally Posted by vtl

I thought that some people had issues with the ER cooler with the fitment wih the ducts/brackets. Needed a lot of fettling.

This one looks quite nice but no idea if it fits 335i as well.
http://www.advanperformanceeuro.com....5-stage-2/ca38

Considering how much the aftermarket oil coolers cost, the OEM stuff would actually end up being cheaper:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/en/showpa...diagId=17_0561

335is came with the same aux radiator cooler. I beleive the PPK cooling kit for the 135i has this part and some plastic ducts for the extra cooler. 1M also has the same rad. Could fit the upgraded fan as well but unlikely to benefit once you are running at decent speed

Full kit for a 335i
https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E92-33...ing/ES2770373/

Would be good to see if anyone has any data on the improvements on the aux radiator

I might end up fitting this aux radiator to get better cooling when doing track days.

I've done the additional oil cooler, decided to go with a Dinan setup, replacing the hose with black nylon braided lines and removing the thermostat, it's not required in Australian conditions imo.

Regarding the radiator, I've investigated these options also (as I'm DCT) and we are cooled the same way as AT's. The lower section of the radiator is actually used to cool the transmission fluid, and after researching options, CSF seem to have the best and most economical option available for AT/DCT radiator which will deliver both engine/coolant and transmission advantages. CSF also now have a local Australian presence with a great rep in the States.

I was toying with the idea to introduce a dedicated transmission cooler on the passenger side vent (where the AUX radiator would be located for the PPK), however I believe this radiator upgrade will be sufficient. A member named AUbeast created some well crafted and thought out adapters to introduce a trans cooler relatively easy.

[_ink]

Originally Posted by Socket

Thanks mate. Yep I'll be off to Springy to dyno and see the difference. May need to get custom MHD tune not sure if I'll get the best out of the new set up with the OTS MHD maps im running now

My advice is to think long term. You mentioned you'd be doing PI down to road, so how would you like this controlled/integrated?

If the answer is JB4, then enlist the tuning services of David (Trebila) who is the tuner of my vehicle as well as the x2 135's that are >400kw on this forum. All of which are running JB4/MHD stacked.

[tawfeeqh]

Originally Posted by _ink

My advice is to think long term. You mentioned you'd be doing PI down to road, so how would you like this controlled/integrated?

If the answer is JB4, then enlist the tuning services of David (Trebila) who is the tuner of my vehicle as well as the x2 135's that are >400kw on this forum. All of which are running JB4/MHD stacked.

oh yes that's the other option I forgot to mention JB4 stacked with BMS or MHD

[Socket]

I will need some more advice on the PI installation

[iliketurtl3s]

So excited for this.

[Socket]

RBs are in

[vtl]

Have you driven it yet? I'm guessing you need a custom MHD tune for it as well?

[Socket]

Originally Posted by vtl

Have you driven it yet? I'm guessing you need a custom MHD tune for it as well?

Yep the car up from Active tonight (thanks Jin for staying back after hours so I could collect it)

RBs, VTT inlets, Mod CPD, PCV upgrade and OCC installed !!

Pulls hard but definitely needs a custom tune!!
The tial BOV has doubled in volume when it vents (do you think Ill need a stiffer spring) and there is a chirping sound (like a bevy of woodland creatures) from the turbos followed by this massive gunshot/unholy scream from the exhaust when stomping on the gas. Lags a bit more then stockies but pulls much harder.. have not had a chance to really give them a run due to peak hour traffic but I think a custom tune is needed and the weird woodland creature BOV/turbo chirping needs an explanation.. Ill try to get an audio clip of it and post it .....

Any suggestions on what to do next would be appreciated

Crappy photos attached

[tawfeeqh]

Nice one Socket - good to hear the install went well. For now you should probably just organise a custom map from Ken at Wedge since you are running MHD. They are super responsive and should have you sorted quickly. They will send you a base map for the RBs then tweak it from there. You could go stiffer springs but there are pros/ cons with that too, which you could find threads on the forum

If you are going PI then maybe you could consider JB4 with a backend flash again from either Wedge or BMS. I think the stacked setup works better with PI controlling boost and fuel, but there are different views