JB4 + Backend Flash vs. MHD Only

Bours · 11-16-2016, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory S

No need for MHD here. My setup is dialed in perfect running Map 6 with BMS BEF.

Hows the bef ?

Cory S · 11-16-2016, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bours

Hows the bef ?

Works as intended. Trims in check, AFR perfect, and great timing. (9-12*)

Bours · 11-16-2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory S

Works as intended. Trims in check, AFR perfect, and great timing. (9-12*)

Pump flash your running ?

Cory S · 11-16-2016, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bours

Pump flash your running ?

Yes. I also can run 20-30% E85, Race fuel blends, etc. all depends how much octane I want to run, and timing I want to see.

Terry doesn't offer the BMS BEF now as a download, but I have copies of it on all my devices.

Bours · 11-16-2016, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory S

Yes. I also can run 20-30% E85, Race fuel blends, etc. all depends how much octane I want to run, and timing I want to see.

Terry doesn't offer the BMS BEF now as a download, but I have copies of it on all my devices.

U have to load it via mhd and its free right ? He offers it on n54tech.
..what do you mean its not offered as a download ? Also i thought pumo flash timing was 8 up top and 4 at low

Cory S · 11-16-2016, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bours

U have to load it via mhd and its free right ? He offers it on n54tech.
..what do you mean its not offered as a download ? Also i thought pumo flash timing was 8 up top and 4 at low

I load it through my Accessport.

Dhillon92 · 11-16-2016, 07:38 PM

Cory is referring to the bef bms offered before, via the cobb.

Cory S · 11-16-2016, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dhillon92

Cory is referring to the bef bms offered before, via the cobb.

Correct. The BMS BEF. Now it's called the MHD BEF.....They partnered up.

Johnny Boost · 11-16-2016, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory S

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Originally Posted by Dhillon92

Cory is referring to the bef bms offered before, via the cobb.

Correct. The BMS BEF. Now it's called the MHD BEF.....They partnered up.

Terry developed the BEF for the MHD so it's still considered a "BMS BEF." He's already said that his BEF for MHD is better than the Cobb BEF since he has access to more tables.

n55e90 · 11-16-2016, 09:31 PM

The e50 flash with meth isn't working for me. It keeps pulling timing. My cars was 3 cars slower with the flash. It's back on the stock flash now.

Bours · 11-16-2016, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory S

I load it through my Accessport.

Oh u should try the new one by loading it through mhd ite better than the one yoi got i heard !

Turbod · 11-16-2016, 09:56 PM

I can understand why Cory would still be using the Cobb BEF. I had no issues with it and it worked well. I only sold the AP so I wouldn't get hit by the deprecation when MHD came out. The MHD BEF will get better in time though.

Cory S · 11-16-2016, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bours

Oh u should try the new one by loading it through mhd ite better than the one yoi got i heard !

There's nothing I need that will make it "better".... My parameters are perfect for max power. Timing, AFR, and boost = power.

Mikaeldarer · 11-16-2016, 11:06 PM

Just wanted to update since I purchased a couple custom tunes from Justin@MHD, a 93 oct and E50. Here is the progress so far on the 93 oct tune after only 2 revisions. Still have some timing corrections to sort out but definitely getting somewhere! Keep in mind the JB4BEF log was on MAP7(higher targets) and I had around E50 in the tank.

Turbod · 11-17-2016, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikaeldarer

Just wanted to update since I purchased a couple custom tunes from Justin@MHD, a 93 oct and E50. Here is the progress so far on the 93 oct tune after only 2 revisions. Still have some timing corrections to sort out but definitely getting somewhere! Keep in mind the JB4BEF log was on MAP7(higher targets) and I had around E50 in the tank.

Do you have any map 0 93 octane logs you can load into the VD for a baseline?

Mikaeldarer · 11-17-2016, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbod

Do you have any map 0 93 octane logs you can load into the VD for a baseline?

I do not, but was planning on flashing back to stock this weekend for some troubleshooting. Will get some logs on map 0 before removing MHD and post the results!

orteeze · 11-17-2016, 02:09 PM

So close to the 400hp mark! Looks like that PS1 holds well up in the RPM's.

Mikaeldarer · 11-17-2016, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by orteeze

So close to the 400hp mark! Looks like that PS1 holds well up in the RPM's.

Yes sir! Should get a bit over 400 with my E50 custom tune once finished. Will keep the thread updated! Would love to see some other's VD results that have PS1 running JB4BEF or MHD.

Peen · 11-17-2016, 06:09 PM

Here is a virtual dyno from my car.

Mikaeldarer · 11-17-2016, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Peen

Here is a virtual dyno from my car.

That is a great power curve for stock turbo!

Was this on Map 7 E85 BEF as you stated earlier? How much ethanol?

Peen · 11-17-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikaeldarer

That is a great power curve for stock turbo!

Was this on Map 7 E85 BEF as you stated earlier? How much ethanol?

Yep map7 E85 flash. Was mixed at 10 gallons E85 and the rest 91. Couldn't tell you what actual E content is though...the pump says E51-E84 lol

Turbod · 11-18-2016, 01:08 PM

Here is one of mine with JB4 only. I have had a hell of a time trying to dial in boost to keep it on target. This is on map 6 with boost slowly building up. Fuel is 92 octane with a 90% methanol mix.

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11-16-2016, 07:38 PM	#73
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n55e90 In it to win it 12 Rep 111 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 335i Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Houston iTrader: (0)	The e50 flash with meth isn't working for me. It keeps pulling timing. My cars was 3 cars slower with the flash. It's back on the stock flash now.
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Turbod Major 396 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: 2014 E84 X1 35i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	I can understand why Cory would still be using the Cobb BEF. I had no issues with it and it worked well. I only sold the AP so I wouldn't get hit by the deprecation when MHD came out. The MHD BEF will get better in time though. __________________ 2011 E92 335i \| 11.7@125 SOLD 2017 Camaro SS \| 12.7@114 SOLD 2019 Audi TT RS \| 10.5@130 SOLD 2020 F97 X3M \| 11.0@123 2023 G80 M3 xDrive
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Mikaeldarer Second Lieutenant 69 Rep 226 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 335i N55 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	Just wanted to update since I purchased a couple custom tunes from Justin@MHD, a 93 oct and E50. Here is the progress so far on the 93 oct tune after only 2 revisions. Still have some timing corrections to sort out but definitely getting somewhere! Keep in mind the JB4BEF log was on MAP7(higher targets) and I had around E50 in the tank. Attached Images __________________ 2011 E90 N55 / Injen intake / PS2 / Pure inlet / VRSF 7" HD FMIC / VRSF DP / FTP CP's / N20 TMAP / BMS OCC / M3 Front Control Arms / Bilstein B12 Pro-Kit Sport Suspension
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orteeze Major 224 Rep 1,073 Posts Drives: 2018 YMB F80 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Alabama iTrader: (14)	So close to the 400hp mark! Looks like that PS1 holds well up in the RPM's. __________________ 2008 MB 335i-SOLD 2011 AW 335i M Sport- SOLD 2011 BSP 335i-SOLD 2011 BSP 335is- FOR SALE 2018 YMB M3- Current
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Peen Private First Class 41 Rep 156 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 335i Sedan Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	Here is a virtual dyno from my car. Attached Images __________________ 2011 335i / MHD E85 BEF / JB4 ISO / xHP Stage 3 TCU / VRSF Catless DP / Phoenix CP / YCW Coilovers's 6K-18K / M3 Control Arms / Enkei Raijin 18' Wheels / Michellin PSS
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11-18-2016, 01:08 PM	#88
Turbod Major 396 Rep 1,210 Posts Drives: 2014 E84 X1 35i M Sport Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	Here is one of mine with JB4 only. I have had a hell of a time trying to dial in boost to keep it on target. This is on map 6 with boost slowly building up. Fuel is 92 octane with a 90% methanol mix. http://datazap.me/u/turbod/log-14794...&data=1-3-4-11 __________________ 2011 E92 335i \| 11.7@125 SOLD 2017 Camaro SS \| 12.7@114 SOLD 2019 Audi TT RS \| 10.5@130 SOLD 2020 F97 X3M \| 11.0@123 2023 G80 M3 xDrive Last edited by Turbod; 11-18-2016 at 01:09 PM.. Reason: Downsized the dyno picture
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