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11-07-2012, 03:30 PM | #67 | |
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I bet many stupid people drive for 20 years and on 21st kill someone because AS tires are junk and they couldn't stop in emergency situation. |
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11-07-2012, 03:42 PM | #68 |
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For me it looks like this (being from Austria - you know, mountains, snow and shit):
AWD certainly helps while cornering, accelerating and a hillclimb WHEN you have good tires. It doesn't make you brake faster. And whoever says he is doing good with AS tires on an AWD in winter clearly hasn't tried driving on WINTER TIRES on an AWD. /Thread |
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11-07-2012, 03:46 PM | #69 |
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Today was my first time drivin in the snow with my 335.
I have Dunlop winter sort 3d's which I highly recommend and I had 0 worries. As long as you don't drive like a douche and have proper tires... You should be fine.
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11-07-2012, 04:01 PM | #70 |
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I put my winter set on this past weekend.
I feel a difference in wet conditions for sure. So much better at water evacuation that previous tyres. Hydroplaning is a challenge for the winter tyres. I can't wait for the first snow to see how they feel. I'm already impressed over the previous All-seasons. Granted, I came from All-season, run-flat, practically bald tires (2/32nds left before replacing), so my driving experience should be very dramatically different. edit: I almost crashed twice last winter with my previous tires. I didn't care though because I wanted my moneys worth out of those stupid ass tires that came on the car, but looking back I wish I would've upgraded sooner. Just something to think about. |
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11-07-2012, 04:03 PM | #71 |
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Meh, I purchased my car late this past summer and it came with a send of brand new AS tires. I planned on buying a second set of dedicated wheels/tires for the summer and swapping the stock tires for winters but that after thinking about it more it seems like a waste of money to me. I'm gonna run these until it's time to change them, then I'll put a set of winters on.
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11-07-2012, 06:27 PM | #73 | |
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My AWD car with pretty bad high performance winter tires was not as good as my RWD car with snow/ice tires. Its RWD car that was like a tank in snow. After that I would never buy another AWD car in Mass, unless its a high performance AWD. Not a fan of carrying extra weight for no reason. |
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11-07-2012, 06:44 PM | #74 | |
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I'm sorry but you are out to lunch X Man. I've got a xDrive and it is terrible in the snow with the AS tires. My old RWD e46 with winters was way better to drive. First thing I did was switch to a set of winters and it has made a huge difference on the 335. AWD does NOTHING in the snow to help you avoid an accident. Sure I could drive like a pansy all winter too, but winter tires can protect you from other people's bad mistakes by giving you the ability to avoid an accident. Winter is not about who can accelerate the fastest. It's about who can stop the fastest, and keep the car under control. That's going to be the car with winter tires every time, whether it is AWD or not. What you are saying is simply wrong. |
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11-07-2012, 06:52 PM | #75 |
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yup what everyone else is saying. An AWD car still has two wheel steering and four wheel braking just like a RWD (or FWD car for that matter) if you want to improve steering and braking you have to improve the tires. AWD just means when you stuff it in the weeds you'll be going faster :/
My old 944 went from undriveable to a beast with winter tires. I'm hoping for the same effect with the 335i. I already put the Blizzaks on it on Saturday, wish me luck! |
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11-08-2012, 05:53 AM | #77 | |
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I got caught in a snow storm in my E90 in December 2010 in Washington, DC. I had a meeting downtown and my truck, which I usually drive in snow conditions, wouldn't fit in the building's garage. I had to drive my E90 knowing that I could get out of the meeting before the snow hit. Well the snow came early. The problem I had was my tires, which were Yokohama AVID WS4 that were into the wearbars already and in serious need of replacement. I was maximizing tread life with the tires (I buy a new set of tires about every 11 months) and was going to replace them within a week. It wasn't the best situation, I'll agree, but I made it back to my office 15 miles West in Virginia in the snow storm, in very slow traffic, on almost bald tires, because I didn't panic, planned my route to avoid large hills, and drove in a way that didn't overtax the very limited amount of grip I did have. If you live in Calgary, yes, run winter tires all winter long, if you live in the USA mid-Atlantic like I do, where it occasionally snows, All-seasons are a reasonable choice. And learn how to drive in snow. |
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11-08-2012, 06:24 AM | #78 |
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^ you say plan your trip and learn how to drive in snow....but the fact is accidents are not planned and even the best drivers get in to them, and by running AS tires you increase that chance greatly.
I would understand if AS were great in summer and so so in winter ......but another fact is that they are no good in summer or in winter. So it basically comes down to 2 things .....1 you cannot afford another set or 2 you are to lazy to switch for your own safety and safety of others |
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I haven't put my snows on yet and this Nor'easter that struck NJ yesterday put down about 4 inches in my area. I left my car in the street til my wife got home, I am the first one out so I don't like to do the car shuffle in the morning. Unplowed surface, I simply pulled up, backed in but went sideways. pulled straight out, went back in, went sideways toward the curbing along the driveway. Pulled out and did it again, and went straight in. Each time I pulled out and stopped, the car just kept sliding forward and to the side.
Keep in mind I have summer performance tires on. So I will be swapping the tires at the next sign of snow in the forecast. |
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11-08-2012, 09:46 AM | #85 |
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Educate yourself first before making retarded comments. High Performance winter tires and especially bad ones cannot compare to good Ice/Snow tires. Thats why RWD with good Ice/Snow tires was better then AWD with bad High Performance winter tires. 2 different tire categories and 2 very different tires.
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