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06-23-2010, 03:57 PM | #925 | |
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06-23-2010, 04:13 PM | #927 |
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Here's a terrible iPhone shot of the FSC request screen:
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06-23-2010, 05:17 PM | #928 | |
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The CIC emulator is proof that the car doesn't really care about about what VIN is loaded in the CIC. But what we are currently talking about is changing the VIN in the 'CIC' using winkfp or whatever tool maybe capable of doing it. I then suggested that in theory if this did work there is no reason why we couldn't write that VIN number to other CIC's. We then enable the maps by entering the 20 digit enabling code through the interface provided by BMW. The CIC would be validating the enabling code against its own VIN. We would/could basically end up creating cloned CIC's that are programmed with a donor VIN and would work with a device such as the CIC Emulator. The map enabling code could then be 'shared' by many people. Now of course you guys have far more knowledge than me about the various BMW tools and I will definitely take your advice and heed your warnings. Just theorizing and exploring possibilities
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06-23-2010, 05:26 PM | #929 | |
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My comment was related to the VIN change in the CIC... |
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06-23-2010, 05:30 PM | #930 |
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OK, then I don't understand your comment about changing all FSC's
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06-23-2010, 07:45 PM | #931 |
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I would guess that changing the VIN in the CIC is what the FSC does, by encryption. If it were so easy to change the VIN then there would be no emulators or FSC... the VIN is the FSC.
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06-23-2010, 08:20 PM | #932 | |
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And patrys, that is not directed at you so much as it is directed at MEN and the russian bastard. I just have an issue with people learning off of other people and piecing information together from people who shared, then being unwilling to share themselves.
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06-23-2010, 08:27 PM | #933 | |
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Therefore, as long as the VIN in the FSC matches the VIN in the CIC, and as long as the two private keys match, you're golden. So if you could get the CIC to have the same VIN as the FSC you have access to, in theory it may work.
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06-23-2010, 09:30 PM | #934 | |
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And before I say anything else I'm not trying to rub anyone up the wrong way or put anyone out of business I just enjoy the challenge.
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06-24-2010, 04:44 AM | #935 | |
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As you noticed I became a vendor on this board a few weeks ago. I don't think you would expect other vendors to disclose details of their know-how, partners they work with or anything else their business is based on. As you can see in my posts I am trying to help you to some extent, but don't expect from me something you wouldn't hear from other vendors. Before I started to offer my services on this forum people who knew how to activate the CIC Navigation were only teasing us and did not even want to be paid for their help. I hope you can see a difference in my attitude even though I do business on what I have learnt. Just FYI, MEN is my business partner, so treat him as a vendor as well. Sorry for the off topic. |
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06-24-2010, 05:42 AM | #936 | |
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I don't think that you will see a VIN packet/data in the CIC that it is in a non-encrypted form. |
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06-24-2010, 05:47 AM | #937 | |
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06-24-2010, 07:02 AM | #938 |
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Sounds to me like we ARE one the right track then.
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Patrys, please note I specifically said that above post wasn't directed at you. I do appreciate the insight you've given, and you have been much more helpful than the other two. Quote:
It's still possible that it uses the FSC to match against what the car provides, but it's also possible that it uses the FSC against what the CIC itself has stored as the car's ECU. Either way, if we could get a hold of a) the FSC for one that works and b) the method to load the FSC and C) stop the CAN packet, it should work and be repeatable.
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06-24-2010, 08:18 AM | #941 | |
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I did not direct my message specifically at you either. Just wanted everyone here to look at the "issue" from a different angle. Back to the topic... Changing the VIN in the CIC is as much complicated as loading the FSC. |
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06-24-2010, 10:20 AM | #942 |
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D-can cable and the infamous BMW E-sys tool, maybe.
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07-07-2010, 11:09 PM | #944 |
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My local dealer told me they can order the FSC code for Voice control and I got the P/N here: Voice activation: 0017 65902163073 they said this is a one off delivery code specially generated by BMW NZ and will not issue it again.
Also question for Technic, I am struggling to find the correct FSC P/N. Although I got two P/N here: Navi application code: 0019 65902163072 ($710NZD) they said this is a one off delivery code specially generated by BMW NZ and will not issue it again. Navi enable code free: 001B 65902163187 (they said this is a free one) :CIC intial code for Oceania 2010: 65902159283 (They said this one will work ) but I think this one is just FSC for map. How many did you order in order to get your navigation working? and what was the dissipation for each FSC code you ordered? Last edited by Renming; 07-07-2010 at 11:29 PM.. |
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07-08-2010, 07:22 AM | #945 | |
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App-ID 0017 = CIC Voice Recognition Repair Code App-ID 0019 = CIC Navigation Repair/Retrofit Code HB App-ID 001B = CIC Navigation Enabler Repair/Retrofit Code HB App-ID ???? = CIC Map Oceania 2010 Repair Code I ordered 0019 and 001B to enable Nav and 002D for the North America 2010 maps. Do you have the price of that 0017 P/N? |
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07-08-2010, 08:35 AM | #946 | |
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