Beware of second_2_nun!! He has over 5000 posts and still this!

FoilUp · 09-21-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cb1111

The funny thing is that until the middle of page two we only had the OP's story of what happened. Then, the seller is foolish to jump in and validate everything the OP said.

Let's look at facts

Buyer says goods were not as described.
Seller states that goods were not as described
Buyer request refund
Seller refuses to give refund

Seller now has to decide if his reputation is worth $100. It doesn't appear to be.

Great summary! The astonishing part is the seller's complete denial of error.

BaMBaM4002 · 09-21-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by second_2_nun

I offered him $40 back he refused. he is not trying to work something out

Shame ..shame...have you not seen the above posts...they are more than clear on what has occured and what needs to be done. Partial refund is not an option ..

Seed · 09-21-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by second_2_nun

I offered him $40 back he refused. he is not trying to work something out

I wouldn't accept that either.

He didn't f up, you did so you really have no right to choose what's acceptable here.

Pay him back in full.

tldoxmf87 · 09-21-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cb1111

Perhaps a copy of the post where he assures you that they are Philips would be helpful.

MMAJNKE · 09-21-2010, 05:38 PM

I made a mistake holy shit.

scrufy · 09-21-2010, 05:38 PM

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wow you are a tool man. I haven't been on since last night I was trying to work something out with you but not anymore. I didn't scam you ou got the grilles and bulbs and you are being a cry baby about the brand.

So... According to that logic if I sell you some BBS rims for 4500.00 and they are actually 800.00 reps then thats fine in your book?
wow

Oh and as for all of the people here getting involved about it, thats what everyone is SUPPOSED to do. Thats what helps weed out the bad (well usually). I would say your pretty lucky he just posted here and didnt put your personal info over on 4chan- those guys woulld have you for lunch...literally. Its pretty easy (although time consuming) if you have the skills to track down someone if you have their personal info. finding out things like where you work etc... yeah, those guys would have some fun with this one... so, be happy and give him his money back. You may even get a call from the police. This is fraud, plain...simple... fraud. It might even be mail fraud and postal inspectors are a nasty bunch. I know one personally.
Even if you tried (in your mind) to make it right, and of course this is all based on the info here so I may be wrong, but he never agreed to accept a partial refund if the item was not what he wanted so adjusting the price is a joke.

FoilUp · 09-21-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by second_2_nun

I offered him $40 back he refused. he is not trying to work something out

Second_2_nun: call it customer service, call it PR, call it marketing, call it whatever you want (misspelled, of course). Rule #1 is always "the customer is always right". Instead of one upset customer, you have many (50 maybe?) who will never buy from you and an audit trail of your credibility.

cb1111 · 09-21-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by second_2_nun

I offered him $40 back he refused. he is not trying to work something out

From what both of you posted, you should give him a full refund and pay for return shipping. The goods you sent weren't as described.

You buy a new BMW from a dealer. He delivers a Chery.

Both will get you from point A to point B. Would you be satisfied?

Express · 09-21-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cb1111

From what both of you posted, you should give him a full refund and pay for return shipping. The goods you sent weren't as described.

You buy a new BMW from a dealer. He delivers a Chery.

Both will get you from point A to point B. Would you be satisfied?

flawless example.

Seminole · 09-21-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by second_2_nun

I offered him $40 back he refused. he is not trying to work something out

He shouldn't have to. If what he said is true, and he clearly stated the he would only buy the bulbs if they were MTEC or Phillips, and you responded that they were genuine Phillips bulbs, then you lied. There isn't anything to argue about. You knew the seller was only interested in purchasing a certain brand of bulbs and you (either intentionally or by mistake) misrepresented them. As such you should refund the whole purchase price and take the bulbs back.

OC Guy · 09-21-2010, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by second_2_nun

I offered him $40 back he refused. he is not trying to work something out

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Originally Posted by cb1111

From what both of you posted, you should give him a full refund and pay for return shipping. The goods you sent weren't as described.

You buy a new BMW from a dealer. He delivers a Chery.

Both will get you from point A to point B. Would you be satisfied?

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Originally Posted by express705

flawless example.

cept it should be Chevy.

MMAJNKE · 09-21-2010, 05:42 PM

he wants to work something out I'm open to it but I'm done with this thread. pm me and let's work something out

MMAJNKE · 09-21-2010, 05:43 PM

I didn't lie I made a mistake on the brand. there is no scamming involved here

Seminole · 09-21-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by second_2_nun

I made a mistake holy shit.

Then man up and make the situation right.

Express · 09-21-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by second_2_nun

he wants to work something out I'm open to it but I'm done with this thread. pm me and let's work something out

he wants a full refund and for you to pay for return shipping. if you could find it in your little heart to do that, then problem solved.

Edward · 09-21-2010, 05:44 PM

What's there to "work out?"

Send him his money back and he sends you your goods back. It's not like we need a due diligence team to go in on this and start doing valuations on shit. Man, the stupidity coming from your end is mind blowing.

Drew_Inna_SD · 09-21-2010, 05:44 PM

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I made a mistake holy shit.

ok so you admit to making a mistake... now you gotta fix it, its simple... refund the money and take your chinese bulbs back... quit being a little woman about it and just move on... youre never gonna win this...

Seminole · 09-21-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by OC 335i

cept it should be Chevy.

Chery is the name of a Chinese brand

Seed · 09-21-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by second_2_nun

I made a mistake holy shit.

So do the right thing and correct it. You can get all the respect back simply by saying you made a mistake and paying back the OP in full AND soaking up all the shipping costs.

Done and the drama's over.

cb1111 · 09-21-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by second_2_nun

I made a mistake holy shit.

Great. Now you have the opportunity to fix it by giving him a full refund.

Your reputation hangs on your next response to this thread.

Edward · 09-21-2010, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Seminole

Chery is the name of a Chinese brand

The man is right. www.cheryinternational.com

OC Guy · 09-21-2010, 05:47 PM

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Chery is the name of a Chinese brand

Oh I stand corrected.

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