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01-18-2019, 01:47 PM | #89 | |
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I work in IT so naturally the computers and stuff of cars fascinates me so much. I'm more on support/managing side than programming or creation but I would just love to know and reverse engineer this stuff just to see how it's all coded. |
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01-18-2019, 04:04 PM | #90 | |
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01-19-2019, 07:07 AM | #91 | |
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When people ask me are BMWs expensive to own, I jokingly reply YES because you need to have a second car for times when the BMW is in the shop!
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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01-19-2019, 12:19 PM | #92 |
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It is annoying but it's not like its a surprise to anyone doing his research. If you want trouble free, the entire cooling system needs to be gone through in one fell swoop with OEM parts and you won't have issues for years until its time for another refresh.
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01-19-2019, 08:20 PM | #93 |
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Or u can just refresh the car..
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01-20-2019, 10:52 AM | #94 | ||
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Fewer issues occur with newer chassis as well, but this is my experience. FWIW, not much. Quote:
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01-20-2019, 02:15 PM | #95 | |
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Reliability is not class dependent. The fact that the E90 is a luxary sport sedan is more reason to surpass the Mazda reliability. But it does not come close. Reliability is a basic building block of a platform. You know like the first step of building the house. Its the base that you build everything else from. Its not a feature that you advertise on a TV commercial. ITs JUST THERE. But with E90 its not., So stop saying the E90 is this and mazda is that. We are talking about basic requirements almost like safety.. Because reliability and safety are linked closely. LEss reliable car is a less safe car... automatically. Period. BMW is getting better but you fan boys have to admit that E90 reliability is FAR from perfect. Because they are making money on parts. Well known at this point.. |
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01-20-2019, 07:36 PM | #96 | |
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01-20-2019, 07:43 PM | #97 | ||
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The link between safety and reliability is not across all dimensions as you want everyone to agree to. There are obvious issues like the Toyota accelerator problem, the Ford Explorers with defective Firestone tires, the Ford Pinto fuel tank, Audi 100 fires, and VAG 1.8T failures, to name a few, but just because your car is unreliable in an aspect or across several aspects does not mean it is unsafe. Ive yet to have knowledge of a casualty as a result of the S85 bearing failure. Or from a M88/3 simplex timing chain failure or a S38B35 crank hub failure. Or a Duramax LB7/LLY injector failure or cooling fan viscous clutch failing and piercing through the radiator causing a casualty. What about the entire Merkur line? 1980s Maseratis? Lots of safety issues with VW Beetles with no strain studs on the cylinder heads? What about E63s 6ers or E65 7ers . . . are the insurance premium high on these rigs because the actuaries ran the data and determined they were so unreliable as to present a safety risk? A joke, but only presented in consideration of your argument. Quote:
Is there a manufacturer that does not want to profit from their parts sales? Mazda or other Japanese mfgs just want to sell you the car for profit but not sell parts for profit? Evidence for your claim regarding BMW's business model of selling less reliable cars relative to the Japanese mfgs for the purpose of parts/service sales? Aka pulling a VW lemon with a massive parts/service network? |
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01-20-2019, 09:33 PM | #98 | |
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People own 1940's spitfire.. looks amazing too..after a fortune of upkeep Last edited by Pladi; 01-20-2019 at 09:40 PM.. |
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01-20-2019, 09:38 PM | #99 | ||
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They all sell parts and make money of selling part OBVIOUSLY ! BMW does it more. in my opinion. Japanese makes take reliability more seriously as a business model. |
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01-20-2019, 09:49 PM | #100 | |
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That's not fanboyism, just statistics. I just recently posted how much it's cost. And it's far less than 3 new cars. |
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01-20-2019, 10:51 PM | #101 | |
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I guess I just don't understand your argument. Many Japanese manufacturers build cars with reliability as a top priority, while German cars tend to put handling and comfort as a priority. They just cater to different buyers, that's all. I'm almost certain nobody on this forum bought a BMW for reliability reasons, I know I didn't. I bought it because working on cars is a hobby of mine and I enjoy how they drive. If I had no space or ability to DIY I'd probably own something else. I just don't understand why people come on here to an enthusiast forum and complain about the reliability of BMWs. That is like me going onto Jeepforum and complaining about getting 16 mpg in my 19 year old Cherokee XJ that has the aerodynamics of a barn and has basically a tractor engine. It's just one of the downfalls of the vehicle, which ALL cars have. If the reliability of the car frustrates you, then maybe you need to sell it and get something that makes you happy. Life is short, drive what you want.
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01-20-2019, 11:13 PM | #102 |
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With BMW you expect more quality for the price of the car. You do get style, luxury, and comfort but the mechanicals are often disappointing.
BMW knows who butters their bread -- people who lease for 3 years and move on. I cant blame them for building pretty piles of junk. It is what it is. None of us buy these expecting dependability.
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01-21-2019, 05:33 AM | #104 | |
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If you define reliability as not leaving you on the side of the road and getting you home every night, my experience with BMWs has been exemplary IMO.
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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How about Honda transmission failures? Toyota Rav4 stripped head bolts? Honda Civic cracked blocks? Mazda rust issues? Subaru head gaskets? Just to name a few. Every brand has weak points.
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01-21-2019, 09:46 AM | #106 |
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We had our Subaru until 200k miles. God, I hated that car.. I would rather have 100 waterpump failures than another refrigerator on wheels. Floored in 4th gear (we had the MT, impossible to find in a newer wagon), it couldn't break 50mph going up a mountain pass. The E91 did that same pass in 6th gear at 70mph with ease.
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01-21-2019, 10:44 AM | #110 |
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I just don’t get the subie craze either. My Saab 9-2x (Subaru wrx) felt like the cheapest car in the world. It wasn’t that reliable (blown shock and axle) wither. Terrible 4 cylinder gas mileage and felt like it was 10 years older than it was.
I have car friends that have owned BMWs and yet they still love the subies. The newer outback is finally a decent feeling car, but that buzzy four banger couples to the CVT is the epitome of boring. I’d rather have a Mazda CX-5 anyday. |
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