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BMW Z2 Roadster Under Consideration, on FWD Platform
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01-13-2013, 03:25 PM | #89 |
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I don't know if this has been discussed before but the main reason for going FWD is because they already had a platform with the MINI so there wouldn't any additional costs. Would it be possible for BMW to make the MINI a RWD car or is the relatively small body/chassis preventing such a thing from happening?
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Why do you think that Alfa Romeo is developing 4C and will bring it to US market too? In order to sell hundreds of thousands of them? Of course not, to sell all the other regular fwd models in big numbers and last time I checked it would be an affordable mid engine, superlight construction, RWD compact coupe and roadster, very expensive to develop but relatively affordable to buy. No other Alfa models will be mid engined or rwd, but with a few things shared with that breathtaking 4C most people will find excuses to buy a hatchback, sedan or crossover Alfa. Isn't this how it works in the auto industry? What really changed now? Also does this mean that we might see M division will find itsef building fwd M-Performance or even "real" M models in the future like it already did with xdrives and diesels?
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Are you guys serious? THis is a roadster we are talking about. I understand AWD for winter or daily driver, but this is a summer sports car
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01-13-2013, 08:47 PM | #93 |
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FWD Z2???????what the fuxx
BMW has been well known making for fun car........now they are making a roadster in FWD???? so bloody disappointing.............they should leave FWD to Mini and all BMW should be strictly RWD......I don't know why they making this move......
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01-13-2013, 08:53 PM | #94 | |
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01-13-2013, 10:45 PM | #95 | |
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Come on, Scott. You're not talking to the uninformed masses here. This is an enthusiast forum. It might be a great handling front-driver, but last I checked, BMW hasn't actually built a FWD car. Therefore, any front-drive car will not drive "like a BMW". I'm not saying BMW shouldn't do it, but cut the bullshit. It's FWD, and there's no way BMW has figured out how to break the laws of physics.
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01-14-2013, 08:32 AM | #97 | |
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Which at the end may result a car which is not even driving like a proper fwd despite being one!
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01-14-2013, 09:43 AM | #101 |
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Let me back up and say that I'm not opposed to BMW making a FWD car. Is there any other manufacturer (mass-manufacturer, not a niche supercar maker) who does not make a FWD car? If we count Mini, I suppose we could say that BMW already does, but Mini is a separate brand, and that's kind of what I'm talking about here.
I loved my VWs. I owned 5 Golf/Rabbits, three of which were GTIs. My last GTI (MkV 2.0T DSG) will always be one of my favorite cars of all time. I can still remember the sensation on day I test drove it. I don't feel that a FWD has to be a bland, boring car. The thing is this: FWD is not RWD. It's just not. We know that, BMW knows that, so why keep up with the charade? Just say what you really mean. BWM intends to make the best handling FWD car on the road. That is a fantastic goal! Just stop insisting that buyers won't be sacrificing anything by settling for FWD. They'll be gaining other things as well, so there's no need to veil this development in marketing-speak.
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I was always excited to hear about the Z2/Z3 rumors being a back-to-basics RWD roadster/coupe because I would love to pick up a vehicle like this some day. If they truely are considering FWD for this vehicle, then that is unfortunate. While there have been great handling FWD cars like the Integra Type R and BMW's own Mini Cooper S, I would not consider a sporty roadster on a FWD platform.
I've frequently thought about picking up a used Z4 M Coupe, which is soundling more and more like the route I may go. Or possibly a Subaru BRZ. There are so many great choices between new and used cars out there these days.
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Medium sized and large cars should be rwd, but the weight savings of fwd are relatively more the less a car weighs. Small fwd is more agile and has a better power to weight ratio compared to rwd. |
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Miata owners don't even know how to drive fwd fast |
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I was hoping the Z2 was going to happen... Soft Top, Rear Wheeled Drive, and then they have this stupid Idea that People want a FWD Roadster?!!?
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