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BREAKING NEWS: Virginia Tech shooting. 20 dead
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04-18-2007, 12:18 PM | #177 | |
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04-18-2007, 01:45 PM | #178 | |
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Basically, you want to own a gun for personal protection, while I feel it's unnecessary. I think more harm comes from owning guns than not owning them, in the United States. Outlawing handguns will not stop criminal activity, but it will reduce the number of violent crimes committed by people who, at a moment of weakness, vent their aggravation by pulling a trigger. It's a risk/benefit analysis that has been clouded by crap from both sides. Closing with humor: |
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04-18-2007, 02:38 PM | #179 | |
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04-18-2007, 02:58 PM | #180 |
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There's already billions in circulation...stricter requirements only hinder law abiding citizens. It's like trying to prevent a first time criminal...impossible as there are too many variances to predict and impossible to profile.
Society needs to become pro-active versus reactive in how it deals with matter. It's pathetic how many people come out after the fact and say things about how secluded he was or how his writing reflected such hatred...how they should've, could've, would've, might've stopped him if blah blah blah. This is my last post to this matter. No need to stir up more emotions over something that's already happened and will never be forgotten. Live and learn. ________ Thc ________ LovelyWendie Last edited by HappyG; 05-17-2011 at 02:54 AM.. |
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Jim Brady was the press secretary to Ronald Reagan that was struck in the temple with a .22 handgun round during the assassination attempt by John W. Hinckley on 31 March 1980. Although he survived he has been incapacitated since. Sarah Brady is his wife. She may be running for office, I don't know. Marcia Brady was a fictitious character in a TV show from 1969-1974 called "The Brady Bunch" played by Maureen McCormick. The Brady Bill was a bill that was passed and signed into law during the Clinton administration that required a waiting period and background check for gun purchasers. It morphed into the instant check where a purchaser's details are compared to a national database for felony convictions and other disqualifications. Quote:
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Why do you think that? Obviously you've never heard of Dan White. He killed the mayor of San Francisco, George Moscone, and Supervisor Harvey Milk in 1978 with a handgun, "a very dangerous toy". His defense was of "diminished capacity" due to depression. The depression was characterized by his consumption of junk food even though he was known as a health food advocate. The jury found him guilty of manslaughter and his defense has become known as the "Twinkie Defense". And for what it's worth, he committed suicide in 1985 less than two years of release from prison.
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04-18-2007, 03:12 PM | #182 |
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UT is also remembering the 1966 shooting when a gunmen climbed the chool clock tower and went sniper crazy on ppl down below. Now tell me how on earth are we suppose to know when something like this going to strike our life?
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04-18-2007, 04:36 PM | #183 | |
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Is this better: I don't think you should own a gun, because I'm afraid you might do something stupid with it. I don't know you, and I don't trust you. The Brady Bill should have included a waiting period. "I want my gun, I want to kill NOW!" Stupid legislatures caving to gun lobby $$$. |
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04-18-2007, 04:38 PM | #184 |
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What has happen already happen and there's nothing anyone can do. We all feel sorry/sad for the victims and family. People are already dead and people here are chatting about his motive and discuss about his past...etc to get an idea as to why he did this. Nothing wrong with that...IMO
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04-18-2007, 07:58 PM | #187 |
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Pics could be disturbing
these pics could be disturbing.......
but this shows you how fuked up this kid was... as you can see.....the famous double handgun that was originated from Asian movies
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04-18-2007, 09:33 PM | #188 |
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Since when did we start attributing tactical positions to a country of origin? The mentally ill kid simply watched too many movies and played too many games. Thats where he thought of all those "poses".
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04-18-2007, 09:53 PM | #189 | |
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In case you don't Happy, you may want to give Michael Savage a try. There's way more in the videos and envelope than we will EVER know. Seems to me a clone of al quieda suicide bomber videos. Was he a muslim extremist? Did he have contact with any terrorist organizations? Why was ismail Ax on his arm and what was it's significance? |
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04-19-2007, 01:14 AM | #190 |
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How many games or films are too much to watch? I've watched literally thousands of films and played hundreds of games. I better watch myself before I turn into a mentally ill pyschopath.
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04-19-2007, 08:13 AM | #191 |
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I didnt say the games and movies made him do it, I said thats what inspired him. A person that was already mentally ill. Nice way of twisting words...good for you!
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04-19-2007, 08:55 AM | #192 |
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this is not an isolated case. Not to jump off topic, but if 30 deaths sounds like a lot, wake up and open your eyes to the thousands that have died in the middle east. 50k+ Its sickening how there is no value for human life. I think the kid had issues, but those issues definitely were not mended by society. In the end, we try to place blame on the person who shot up the village, but really it takes more than just a psychopath to do these horrific acts. A chain of events must ensue and most times that chain is brought to a hault before its completed its course to violence. Definitely stricter gun control is one issue. But so is the responsibility of his teachers/profs who read fked up literature the guy was composing to conusel him or atleast keep an eye out. In the end we are gonna make the guy out to be evil and point fingers, its a sad truth. Crap like this will continue till we can stand up and take responsibility for the crap. And then only can we say we did something about it. Talk about it is cheap and for the most part redundant.
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04-19-2007, 09:53 AM | #193 | |
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The reason it's a big deal is because this violence occurred amongst us and could've happened anywhere at anytime, so people are also in shock of the relative ease with which something like this can get out of control. The reason the deaths in wars and the Middle East don't affect people (other than relatives of people that lose their lives there) is because, to people, it's violence that's off in some distant battlefield. Meanwhile they barely get a realistic view of what happens there from the news and I believe a lot of people just don't want to think about death in general. Unfortunately, it's not really a battlefield there since lots of activities take place in populated civilian areas, so imagine what they're seeing every day.
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People dying in war and on the battle field is one thing. Innocent students going to class to get and education who end up having their life taken away by some kid with a fucked up head is a completely different story.
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4000 US college students commit suicides ever year, 70,000 sexual abuse cases happen on campus annually.
Nobody cares, as long as it doesn't affect them, these troubled kids can do whatever the hell they want. Until one day, one of them goes really crazy and takes 32 people with him instead of quietly taking his own life. Suddenly, communities become concerned; People become paranoid; A whole bunch of laws regarding guns, violence, media influence, security, etc etc etc are called into debate and questioned intensely. But no matter how many laws we change and how many legislations we approve, there's no law in our country to teach and regulate this: human compassion for those that are "different". Don't think for a minute here that I'm defending the killer's actions, he was a seriously fucked up kid that had deep psychological issues. But I must wonder what the 4000 potential suicide candidates must be thinking when they watch this: "Nobody cares if I die, but if I shoot up a school, then I will become the center of attention, like the kids from Columbine and that guy from Virginia Tech." Don't just blame, think. |
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04-19-2007, 03:34 PM | #196 | |
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Very good post. I guess we need a MAJOR reform of the education system where kids, starting from a very young age, are tought tolerance, compassion, and self-esteem. Both bullys and bullees must be better educated and tought that harming another human being in 99.9 % of the cases in unacceptable. |
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04-19-2007, 03:50 PM | #197 |
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did anyone read the story of Collin, a massacre survivor?? He was in the room that that fucker Cho went into. He got shot 3 times while playing dead and was lucky to survive. It's just crazy.
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"One hears all kinds of answers—educational theory is an ever-burgeoning industry—but some of the freshest voices today are talking about, and trying out, methods that go beyond transmitting information and training in cognitive skills. In having children pay attention to their breath, to their walking, to the world around them, and to their own emotions and those of others, they are trying to include all parts of the child, and all parts of the teacher, in the process of education. Beyond that, they are fostering a nurturing and caring climate in the classroom, and even expanding the object of study to include the workings of the mind itself. Some call it “contemplative education”; others are reluctant to name it anything just yet. The common thread that runs through the comments of all of the educators I spoke with, though, is that school can be a place of tremendous discovery, and real discovery requires all the resources of body, mind, and spirit that teacher and student can muster." To read more: http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.ph...=3004&Itemid=0 |
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