[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by chrisw335i

methanol mode should be 1...injection mode should start at 20, but depending on logging to see your flow rate, it will probably end up being between 25-30

Cool thanks! I will try 25 and do some logs when I can (sprinking outside now )

Since installing these new aggressive maps, traction loss is more of an issue. I don't have an LSD and I'm running 19's (nitto invo 275 rears). I've previously run Traction Threshold at 25-30% with the older (7-29 maps) and seemed to work great. I could even get first gear to hook up (on warmer days where the pavement was hot)! Now, flooring it at any speed in second gear results in a lot of traction loss. Anyone with these aggressive meth maps have some success dialing in the Traction Threshold? Thx.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Cool thanks! I will try 25 and do some logs when I can (sprinking outside now )

Since installing these new aggressive maps, traction loss is more of an issue. I don't have an LSD and I'm running 19's (nitto invo 275 rears). I've previously run Traction Threshold at 25-30% with the older (7-29 maps) and seemed to work great. I could even get first gear to hook up (on warmer days where the pavement was hot)! Now, flooring it at any speed in second gear results in a lot of traction loss. Anyone with these aggressive meth maps have some success dialing in the Traction Threshold? Thx.

Since all cars are different you should find your max flow (instead of ball parking) and set your injection mode 3-5 points lower.

[enrita]

Is anybody seeing consistent differences in fuel trims per bank when running meth? Would be great to see some logs so that i can compaire to mine. Rpm and fueltrims is enough.

[plague]

Originally Posted by enrita

Is anybody seeing consistent differences in fuel trims per bank when running meth? Would be great to see some logs so that i can compaire to mine. Rpm and fueltrims is enough.

2 logs of mine right here.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=607081

[drewmeyer87]

Love these maps, they feel amazing.

Is it intentional that the onset of meth doesnt happen until higher boost?

I used to see meth flow under part throttle around ~5psi, now it doesnt kick on until around ~8-9psi. Could this have anything to do with my injection % being set wrong? I ballparked it a few points lower than what I remembered my max flow was from my last logs.

[enrita]

Originally Posted by plague

2 logs of mine right here.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=607081

attaching some of mine, would be nice to see if others have perfectly aligned fuel trims on meth as without:

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by drewmeyer87

Love these maps, they feel amazing.

Is it intentional that the onset of meth doesnt happen until higher boost?

I used to see meth flow under part throttle around ~5psi, now it doesnt kick on until around ~8-9psi. Could this have anything to do with my injection % being set wrong? I ballparked it a few points lower than what I remembered my max flow was from my last logs.

Meth starts flowing at the same boost pressure. But the meth flow light won't illuminate until a higher meth flow is reached. Which is probably why you assumed that meth starts to flow at a higher boost. This higher flow requirement is because of the higher injection mode value we recommend running with the aggressive maps.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by enrita

attaching some of mine, would be nice to see if others have perfectly aligned fuel trims on meth as without:

Bank trim deviation is entirely a result of meth atomization/distribution. The better the atomization/distribution, the less difference between banks. This is the reason our pwm kit uses two nozzles and a huge charge pipe which slows the charge velocity, giving more time for the meth to atomize and distribute evenly. But even then, expect to see a 5-10% difference bank trims at WOT/high rpm when charge velocity is the highest. If you are seeing a difference of over 25%, it would behoove you to move the nozzles more upstream and/or use smaller multiple nozzles.

[plague]

Btw shiv. just took the car out for first time running the maps on stage 3, and my rear end had a mind of its own. i believe i even let OFF throttle in 2nd gear bc it was so much torque, and my crazy ass never does that. aggressive is the perfect name to label these maps with. anyhow im in the gym at the moment, back to business lol

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by plague

Btw shiv. just took the car out for first time running the maps on stage 3, and my rear end had a mind of its own. i believe i even let OFF throttle in 2nd gear bc it was so much torque, and my crazy ass never does that. aggressive is the perfect name to label these maps with. anyhow im in the gym at the moment, back to business lol

Get that pump on. Go big or go home!!! Grrrrr

Glad you guys are enjoying the new maps.

[jpsimon]

I'm never going to get to try these maps

[ruphianh]

Anyone willing to help me out over the phone. I've definitely done somethign wrong on the update and the car is not right. I'm getting ses flashes and engine malfunctions.

[plague]

Originally Posted by ruphianh

Anyone willing to help me out over the phone. I've definitely done somethign wrong on the update and the car is not right. I'm getting ses flashes and engine malfunctions.

pm sent

[cstmx_ryder]

You're missing the point...my point is what the tuner/manufacturer says that's gonna happen vs what actually happens....

So let's say apple says that iPhone 4 will be compatible with all the future upgrades via a software OS update and that you won't need an iPhone 5 to get all the new features. Then 6 months later iPhone 5 comes out and come to find out that all the new features are ONLY available/compatible with the new IPhone 5.....Now it's not about bitching/whining about the $199 for a new phone, but more so has to do with what's been said/promised vs what actually happens. TBH, I'd rather just hear it beforehand that the new features WON'T be compatible with the previous gen products, rather than finding out the day of.....

I know there's always gonna be newer and better gadgets/products evolving from the previous generation....but again, that's not my point.

Originally Posted by jdbretz

Just pay the $50 to upgrade to a Rev 2.5 and run all the new stuff. Products evolve and if you want to keep up you have to pay. Do you not buy a new cell phone or computer because eventually there will be a newer better model? Its not like your Procede works worse now than when you originally bought it. It just may not support all the new features in the years to come just like anything else out there.

[FastBimmerN54]

Originally Posted by cstmx_ryder

You're missing the point...my point is what the tuner/manufacturer says that's gonna happen vs what actually happens....

So let's say apple says that iPhone 4 will be compatible with all the future upgrades via a software OS update and that you won't need an iPhone 5 to get all the new features. Then 6 months later iPhone 5 comes out and come to find out that all the new features are ONLY available/compatible with the new IPhone 5.....Now it's not about bitching/whining about the $199 for a new phone, but more so has to do with what's been said/promised vs what actually happens. TBH, I'd rather just hear it beforehand that the new features WON'T be compatible with the previous gen products, rather than finding out the day of.....

I know there's always gonna be newer and better gadgets/products evolving from the previous generation....but again, that's not my point.

These are not mandatory upgrades. Drive your car and move on mate.

[enrita]

Originally Posted by enrita

Shiv: whats Debug byte 7 in the channel list?

[Big Tom]

Originally Posted by enrita

whats Debug byte 7 in the channel list?

It used to be Methanol Flow, but I don't know if that has changed?
(Probably, because now there's a dedicated signal who is called "Methanol Injection Flow")

[Joshboody]

debug 7 is the o2 bias... it should mirror the AFR table values.

[enrita]

Originally Posted by Joshboody

debug 7 is the o2 bias... it should mirror the AFR table values.

[NoQuarter]

Like shiv said... This aggressive tune requires the car to be in top shape

I have a new code: misfire cylinder #3 when under heavy load.
65,000 miles

- Is this likely the coil pack or injector? Which would you swap out first?

Sorry if you don't think this post belongs here. I figured the problem arose as a direct result of pushing the car harder and it illustrates Shiv's point.

[bryce]

Originally Posted by NoQuarter

Like shiv said... This aggressive tune requires the car to be in top shape

I have a new code: misfire cylinder #3 when under heavy load.
65,000 miles

- Is this likely the coil pack or injector? Which would you swap out first?

Sorry if you don't think this post belongs here. I figured the problem arose as a direct result of pushing the car harder and it illustrates Shiv's point.

how many miles on the spark plugs? i'd start there, then work up.

spark plug --> coil pack --> injector

[NoQuarter]

Originally Posted by bryce

how many miles on the spark plugs? i'd start there, then work up.

spark plug --> coil pack --> injector

Sorry - meant to include that with the miles. The spark plugs were replaced just a couple thousand miles ago.

Looks like the coil pack can be had for about $50. I suppose I can also swap the coil to another cylinder and see if the misfire moves.