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07-23-2012, 06:41 PM | #177 | ||
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you've been repeating the same fucking thing over and over again. it does not make it any more valid. and if you are wondering, i am a liberal, but neither a republican or a democrat. i am also an atheist. on top of that i come from the part of the world where people were not allowed to have guns, other than long guns specifically for hunging and I fully support 2nd Amendment and individual right to own and carry a firearm.
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07-23-2012, 06:43 PM | #179 |
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So, why would you reply as if you doubted something you just admitted not know sh!t about?
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07-23-2012, 06:43 PM | #180 |
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Tennessee requires a CCW class prior to obtaining it, too. Starting the process soon. But, I also don't think anyone outside of professional trained shooters should walk around everywhere with it. Having it on your side could potentially cause you to do something you wouldn't have done. You're expecting something to happen, rather than being prepared for it. I'll leave mine in my car or home.
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Wow getting a little defensive, all I did was quote what you said with a question mark, ya know, that thing that generally implies someone was confused and or wanted to know more?
Calm down there buddy lol.
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Acquisition and hitting the acquired target are two different things for sure. But if you're behind the bad guy you had better take out your pocket knife and take that guy out!! I quoted hero because you can trust that i don't want to EVER draw down on anyone to protect myself. So you can be doubly sure that i don't want to kill another person if i weren't in imminent danger myself. If i were present in a robbery such as the sparky old man at the internet cafe i would not consider drawing my weapon unless it appeared the perps intended on using deadly force. I'm smart enough to just hand over my wallet and have them be on their way. There is no justification for deadly force to protect property in my opinion. I pay a load of money to insurance companies to protect my property, no need to kill anyone over it. There was a post that was just deleted that accused us gun owners of actually wanting to kill someone. I can't speak for all but all the pistol toting people i know, want that to be the last thing they ever have to do. Also, i haven't checked on any of this but i received it in an email today..... Quote:
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07-23-2012, 06:57 PM | #185 | |
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07-23-2012, 09:44 PM | #186 | |
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And your still getting owned. BOOM-HEADSHOT
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07-24-2012, 06:20 AM | #188 |
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In the UK, we have what I think are some pretty tight gun control laws. Same applies to carrying knives. Over here, we have no access to handguns or auto/semi-automatic rifles. We have strict ownership laws that surround shotguns and rifles only. I would bet a very high percentage of UK citizens have never seen let alone held a gun on UK soil.
Despite these strict laws we have also been subjected to some high profile gun related killings recently, however not on the same scale as the recent event in Colorado. Criminals have a desire to commit these crimes, therefore find ways of obtaining these guns unlawfully. From what I'm told it's not even that difficult in the UK, despite the strict laws in place. So long as people wish to behave in this way and have that desire (sane or not), these crimes will always occur. IMO, you just can't control a behavior by controlling a thing. Sure, you can try, but that would be like trying to control drunk driving by keeping sober people from buying cars. Two different scenarios, but the outcome the same.... The majority of law abiding citizens would suffer. For what it's worth, I have to agree with Mike,Collins and MPOWER. The country is saturated with guns now, and that wont change. However controlling and training CCW owners would go someway in providing a level of damage limitation in situations like the one in Colorado. Because if it came down to it, I'd rather be getting shot at with someone trained shooting back, than be a completely sitting duck. Just my $0.02 worth. |
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07-24-2012, 08:25 AM | #189 |
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Seems to me there's an angle that's been neglected in all this. This guy got all his guns and ammo legally. Say instead of guns, it was prescription drugs. If you try to double-up on your lipitor or percoset, you'll get shut down by the pharmacy. Even the DMV does a better job of tracking your auto registration and driving record.
Everyone acknowledges that his rapid accumulation of arsenals should've raised red flags. Except we don't have the same system in place for guns as we do for prescription drugs or vehicles. |
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07-24-2012, 08:41 AM | #190 | |
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I still stand by the fact, that in a crowded dark tear gas filled room, it would be difficult to get an accurate shot off without risking hitting another innocent. People would be pushing you as your lining your shot up, people would be running near the gun man, bullets do go through walls. Sure the emotional part of me wishes that someone in that theater had a gun to blow the fuckers head off. I just honestly don't see it happening with most of the people that carry. I would find it much more likely that someone would slip and there would of just been another casualty. For anyone saying that I wanted them to be defenseless in the situation clearly doesn't know a damn thing about me. |
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07-24-2012, 08:50 AM | #191 | |
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All my training tells me that the average gun toting civilian would of only risked further damage. As you undoubtedly know, it is difficult to shoot indoors, in the dark, as your being pushed and shoved by the people around you. Not to mention, in the confusion people probably wouldn't know if you were an enemy gun man yourself and run towards the other guy. Please don't mistake my opinion as me wanting these people to be defenseless. As I said in the post above, I wish someone had illegally brought their gun in and blown the fuckers head off. I just see it as being far too likely that they would of hit an innocent, or hit the guys body armor and just pissed him off. Now, in MOST situations, hell yah I want the innocents to be armed. http://theinterrobang.com/2012/07/sh...internet-cafe/ There is a perfect example. This is a different situation though, there aren't 300 people running around in a dark, tear gas filled auditorium. Also just for the record, I'm not saying guns should be banned, by any stretch of the mind. I own 3 pistols, a shotgun, and am in the market for something bigger. I'm also not saying that there should be a waiting period [was just an example of something that could change], all I'm saying is that our gun laws aren't perfect. I'm guessing those arguing against me are saying are gun laws are perfect?
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07-24-2012, 08:53 AM | #192 | |
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Some interesting statistics reflecting the attitudes of Americans in regards to gun control. Links provided at the bottom.
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx http://www.people-press.org/2012/04/...-2008-or-2004/ http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm |
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Sorry, but the type of person that is going to kill a bunch of people in a movie theater is going to acquire the weapons to do said deed whether guns are legal or not. There's not much else to say...
They can ban guns all day long, or implement additional strict laws concerning them, but scumbags like this guy will still find a way, whether it's illegally obtained guns or an IED he builds in his apartment. What will become the scapegoat at that point?
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ah, of course, there is no better way to show your intellectual superiority than using personal attacks!
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07-24-2012, 09:58 AM | #198 |
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The point about prescriptions is not that it's foolproof, but it has controls for the law-abiding individual. This guy went about his gun & ammo purchases legally, but no one questioned the quantity of ammo or the frantic purchase of many firearms in a short time.
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