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      08-13-2016, 10:03 AM   #23
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Planning on having the setup installed within the next week so I am in the process of purchasing coolant. Would anyone happen to know the additional amount of fluid to be added when installing the PPK2 aux radiator?

Going with 1 gallon BMW coolant + distilled water and then remainder with Water Wetter to fill the aux radiator.
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      08-13-2016, 10:26 AM   #24
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I had the PPK2 installed by a dealer on my 2011 E92 335i. I was told there were potentially different parts depending on the specific car and they wouldn't know which would be needed until they looked under the hood.

That being said, I think it was ducting that was different not the radiator or hoses.

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      08-25-2016, 02:54 PM   #25
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Just an update.

The auxiliary radiator was installed, one man job was 12 hours on ramps. Most of the time spent was trying to maneuver the hose that connects between the block and radiator, a good 3-4 hours since it involves removing the intercooler and radiator fan. After all was said and done I am seeing temps just under 5 degrees lower after doing a cool-down drive after a hard run.

Will try and post a detailed how-to for anyone interested though I highly recommend the upgrade for anyone tracking or driving their car aggressively.
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The auxiliary radiator was installed, one man job was 12 hours on ramps. Most of the time spent was trying to maneuver the hose that connects between the block and radiator, a good 3-4 hours since it involves removing the intercooler and radiator fan.
I have done two of these PPK aux radiators installations. Didn't remove intercooler. Didn't remove radiator fan. 12 hours ? That is little to long. Takes me 3 to 4 hours each with out rushing.
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      09-27-2017, 04:33 AM   #27
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Hello all, was wondering if it would be possible or if anyone has retrofitted the N54 PPK stage 2 aux radiator (and possibly fan) to a N55 e92. Is there a specific aux radiator kit for the N55 and N54 or is it all one in the same?

I am in the process of ordering the 335is ducting for the M Sport bumper and want to take full advantage of the new air flow. There might be aftermarket solutions though I was wondering if I purchased the parts below if it would be a direct bolt on/need slight modification.

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IMO, it would be easier, cheaper, and equally effective to get a CSF or Mishimoto radiator.
I went ahead and priced out the radiator, hoses and necessary hardware at just under $400 which are all new parts, used hoses and a new radiator would be a little bit less. I did explore aftermarket options though for that price I would prefer to have an OEM fit with OEM parts versus an aftermarket solution.

At this point I'm assuming no one has installed this on an N55 e92, I think I may have to go ahead and purchase the kit to see if I can make the hoses connect up without any/much modification. I know the radiator will mount up along with all the other ducting (335IS ducting will be used).

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The BMS one keeps the temps around the same 230ish, but takes longer to warm up the car. The ad-engineering one opens flow to the oil cooler earlier than stock. So, the car warms up normally, but keeps the temps lower.

The difference is 20 degrees. So, if you use the aux cooler with the stock valve nothing will change as the stock valve will close again blocking access to the oil cooler when it cools down. The external one would only help if you force all oil through it.
After checking this out a bit more I'm going to throw one in the car as I think it will definitely compliment the auxiliary radiator. Originally I thought it was a by-pass and not a thermostat, that was one of the main reasons I did not go through with the BMS valve.
wow thats cheap its stupidly expensive here in the uk
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Yes the car is a 2011 M Sport + sport package and includes the oil cooler, this is the main reason for going over to the 335IS larger M Sport bumper cooling ducts. After spirited driving temps are about 240-245 though I believe with actually tracking the car the temps will be higher, this is the reason for the aux radiator inquiry.

After some research and seeing that the water pump is the same in the N54/N55 I believe this might bolt on. I know the radiator will mount in the drivers wheel well though just need clarification on the radiator hoses being compatible.

These are normal operating temps
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Aside from the non-OEM appearance, why not go all out and fit a big Setrab core in the left wheel arch using a custom bracket?
You could mould some sheet metal to make a duct.
All the quick release fittings can be obtained by either buying new hoses or going to the wreckers and sawing off the stainless band, allowing you to run your own hose with a spring or worm drive clamp.

There might be one final hurdle - if the DME then flags a fault for taking too long to warm up the engine.
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From reading all the trouble required to do this, it looks like it's generally more effective to get either larger or more efficient radiator

That is, assuming you haven't gotten the PPK2 hardware kit for a heck of a deal...if so, then by all means it's worth it.
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All this to get only 5 degs difference, really? Imo not worth it at all...
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