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09-08-2009, 05:06 PM | #1 |
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Whale Watchers TV show
Has anyone seen this show on Animal Planet/Discovery? I watched it for the first time last night - and found it somewhat disturbing. Don't get me wrong - I like whales - but it seems that these guys are nothing more than your average ecoterrorist.
On a side note it would be pretty cool to spend a month on a boat going to/from Antarctica though (despite the cold). |
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On your side note, I spent 6 months on an icebreaker on a trip from Seattle to Antarctica and back. It was an amazing trips with port calls in Hawaii, Sydney, Melbourne, and New Castle Australia, Hobart Tasmania, Tahiti, Mazatlan, and San Francisco. It was a once in a lifetime trip. I also made several trips to the Arctic. The port calls in Alaska were not quite as exotic but still very cool if you are into the outdoors.
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09-08-2009, 05:39 PM | #4 |
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I watched it the other week, and agree that they are just ecoterrorists. Their attitude made me root for the whalers, and laugh at their many failures.
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Ive never watched the show, but I certainly dont support whaling. Why is everybody calling them ecoterrorists? Wouldnt an ecoterrorist, terrorize the ecosystem? Arent they trying to preserve the ecosystem which provides our food, water, and oxygen?
Again, Ive never watched the show so im just going off the previews.
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09-08-2009, 06:36 PM | #7 |
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I've watched Whale Wars for both seasons and I'm addicted. I don't support whaling and I actually root for these guys. I don't believe one second that the Japanese are down there for research purposes only so I don't mind those guys throwing a monkey wrench into the Japanese operations.
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Yeah the captain is a bit strange; now that I think of it he reminds me of the crazy old guy in Jurassic Park.
While I don't agree with everything they do; the "research" excuse the Japanese are using is complete
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09-08-2009, 09:09 PM | #10 |
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Agreed, he's on a constant power trip. He's also very childish at times too.
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09-08-2009, 10:52 PM | #11 | |
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Same here. My favorite quote from one of the women on the boat: "It is so frustrating that they [the whalers] aren't afraid of us. And now they are starting to use some of our own tactics against us! Very frustrating..." Well boofuckinghoo! They believe in what they are doing just as much as the Sea Shepherds believe in what they are doing. Whining and crying that they don't roll over for you is too bad. I think the Sea Shepherds are all asshats, but I give them credit for being out there in defense of their position. But watching the Japanese hook up 4 whales right in front of them did make me laugh a little. Completely incompetent fools! Plus, they are extremely dangerous, twice ramming other ships. My opinion on whaling is that if is properly managed like most of the other fisheries, I see no problem with it, as long as the species in question is thriving and not endangered.
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-Watson is responsible for ramming, scuttling, and sinking a slew of boats across the world's waterways -He is quoted as saying, ”the death of seals is an even greater tragedy than the death of four sealers”. -in the aftermath of 9/11, Watson announced “there is nothing wrong with terrorism, as long as you win” -He said, "earthworms are far more valuable than people” |
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09-08-2009, 11:31 PM | #13 |
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People say lots of stuff. Whaling is still wrong. Ive said some crazy stuff in my life, that doesnt mean that I should be judged based on what ive said.
The terrorism comment is weird but id like to see the context. But the seals and earthworms things are fine. We are primates, they are seals and worms. Whos to say which is better?
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Here is a little reading on Cpt. Watson http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=1217 |
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You are assuming that humans are more important then whales and thats not up to us, being that we are human, to decide. We are bias. I think that all life should be allowed to live out their days naturally. That captain guy should not be killing or hurting people, and the whalers should not be killing whales. Im definitely gonna watch this show now. Sounds interesting.
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just donated some money to his sea shepherd organization- i don't agree with all of his motives and tactics, but i think the japanese are despicable when it comes to whaling.
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Humans are usually at the top of the food chain. Sometimes those lower on the food chain manage to snack on a human, which is fine. But this "can't we just all get along" namby-pamby bullshit doesn't cut it in nature. You don't see lions letting up on zebras or gazelles on the plains of Africa. If they could, they'd eat every damn thing they could get their paws on. Humans are unique in that we have the mental capacity to understand how our actions have an impact on the environment, and we can choose to manage that impact (or not.) Hunters and fishers are the world's best conservationists. Hunters and fishers in America have done more to protect the overall health and prosperity of the animals they hunt and fish than these Sea Shepherds ever have. But mostly, it is an "emotional" issue for a lot of people. Seals are cute, you can't kill them! Whales are cool and smart, you can't kill them either! A cow, oh please, those dumbass ugly bastards are just walking tenderloins! A lamb is too cute and cuddly to eat! A chicken? Man, they are noisy, dirty ugly birds, when's dinner?
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And we are not at the top of any food chain. We are primates. Primates eat plants. Predators catch food and digest it raw. We cannot catch food naturally. We are 99% percent identical to chimps. 1% of our brain became different and now most people think they are special, lol. All conscious life should have a choice. Bacteria has no feeling, carrots have no feeling. Animals besides humans, have emotions, feelings, thoughts, pain, etc. Why should one species life be above another in terms of thinking conscious life? If we have such great brains, then why do we commit conscious evil acts while animals only act on instinct? If we are so smart whats with all the drugs, violence and stuff that humans do on purpose? Your a primate, get over it. We just appeared on this earth from who knows where. Its not a primates job to decide what lives or dies. Who cares what lions do in the jungle? You claim we have better brains, yet do the same thing as jungle animals while also raping and murdering our own kind?? This human ego drug has got to stop. Your a monkey, our species has only been relevant for 6k years out of 5 billion earth years. Stop thinking your better then any other conscious creature. You couldn't survive if this planet said no more air, or no more water. Your a slave to the planet, be grateful.
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09-09-2009, 07:54 AM | #20 |
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For those who do not know Paul Watson, the captain of the ship was the founder of Green Peace, and was thrown out the organizations for his over the top actions. He was the person what came up with the idea of driving huge nails into tree so when tree cutters saws hit them the saw would kick back and hurt or kill the cutter which did happen.
Also, the reason he is out on the seas doing this is because there are no laws in the open seas, and he is lucky the Japanese do not fire back, this is why he is not taking the Russian on who also do whaling and they would fire back at him. He is a simple coward. I am personally all about doing what we can to lesson our impact on the earth and our resources. However, as I tell people like the ones on the Sea Shepherd they are just as much to blame as anyone, and unless they are naked in the wood living off the land they have no room to criticize anyone. Last edited by Maestro; 09-09-2009 at 08:39 AM.. |
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I like how they save the earth in their leaky ass ship that's pouring out diesel into the oceans
Other fun facts about Sea Shepard: They own a salmon fishery, even though they've protested other salmon fisheries Paul Watson demands his crew eat vegan meals, yet he personally eats hamburgers and steaks.
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