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07-15-2023, 03:53 PM | #2795 |
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£7500 for everyone buying an ev..wow..how benevolent USA is.
Nil such in UK though for business buyers there are tax breaks. |
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07-15-2023, 04:04 PM | #2797 |
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Massive groundlevel backlash against the ev/ zero lobby here..I think they've listened as they're at risk of getting booted out.
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07-15-2023, 04:49 PM | #2798 |
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There are folks who buy a car for simple transportation and they have no emotional attachment to the car. Generally that is NOT the people who frequent auto forums and blogs. We buy cars that excite us, that we find aesthetically pleasing, fun to drive. EV's can fulfill these as well as ICE's. My issue is the heavy hand of government and business (ESG) being placed on promoting the EV at the expense of ICE cars. I'm always willing to enter into a spirited conversation on EV's and what I believe to be the inconsistencies in the rational for their use but I would never suggest that someone not fulfill their automotive dreams with a EV. Just don't send me the bill or demand that I get in the EV line.
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07-15-2023, 08:31 PM | #2800 |
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Not so benevolent. The figure heads are playing with other peoples money namely off the backs of people such as me. I'm in the demographic that makes too much for the handouts but too little to have all the tax shelters. I just get taxed to death and it doesn't matter which party is in office both have given me the shaft.
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07-16-2023, 01:37 AM | #2802 |
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07-16-2023, 03:57 AM | #2803 |
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So 750000 ev sales in the usa in 2022 looking ahead applying the $7500 to this figure yearly gives us
$ 5,625,000,000 I'm not even sure how much that is..yearly..handout. |
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07-16-2023, 05:04 AM | #2804 | |
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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/7...you-money-now/ Just the income restrictions knock many out of getting the credit. |
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07-16-2023, 09:19 AM | #2807 | |
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Interesting to know is the RWD Model 3 has 271 HP and 350 pounds of torque, yet pulls just a 5.8 second 0 - 60 run (per Tesla's website). My 2006 325i E90 with 215 HP and 199 pounds of torque does 0 - 60 in 6.1 seconds. (per Car and Driver testing).
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07-16-2023, 09:35 AM | #2808 |
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My perspective of speed is skewed and I don't live by just 0 to 60. Once you get on a modern sport bike everything you drive is slow. Only thing that will rival the sheer brutality of acceleration is a hypercar and I'm talking about at any speed...not just at a standing start. The thing is I can keep doing these types of displays of acceleration repeatedly with only a few minutes needed to "recharge" at 30+MPG.
From my observations, the red herring about people saying EVs have this brutal torque hit from the get go is that most EV drivers (including Tesla owners) barely if ever tap into this power. There are many times I'm creeping behind an EV (to include Teslas) on an on ramp to a highway. If one were to actually use the potential of that car, this would be the time to do it but very rarely does anyone actually do. This falls in line to how most people drive which is to casually get from point A to B which they can easily do with an econobox ICE car for much less money both upfront and over the long term. |
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I mean, on on-ramps, 99% of everyone everyone doesn't speed up until AFTER they get on the highway for some dumbfounding reason. And as they are getting close to merge they start whiplashing their neck desperately trying to see in the blind spot they've adjusted their side mirror to exclude because they like seeing the rear of their car. But that's just everywhere.
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As to a performance EV, I'll take that bet with my S1000RR. Because apparently you've never been on a modern sport bike. Especially the Kawasaki H2. |
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07-16-2023, 08:39 PM | #2814 |
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People have no clue how fast the Plaid really is. Here's a freaking SUV putting bus lengths on a 720s (skip to 5:10). Earlier in the vid they show some races starting from a higher speed as well, results are barely closer, 720s still gets smoked
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07-16-2023, 09:05 PM | #2815 |
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I feel like that was just a flex above for that guy to show off his motorcycle or something.
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