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      05-06-2018, 12:30 PM   #2113
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No, it wont hurt. But I would do it after. All kinds of things will be different at the S2+ map.

changes of short term trims over 10 percent just indicate adaption is still pretty high. I would drive it longer and make a couple of 3 to 4th runs before creating a log.

Normally, rough cold starts are the best indicator of bad injectors. You will usually smell raw fuel.

Cyl 5 does tend to get a little more noise and maybe a little more heat. It will likely be closer to the edge on timing. They are like a 2.7 degrees, not too bad. OVer 3 is where you should start to get concerned.

It probably wont change but you can try.
Little update to my earlier logs we talked about (page 89 & 90)

New intercooler arrived and i went and flashed to mhd stage 2+,
still few small partial throttle closures but not nearly as bad as earlier?

I created new log, 3rd gear pull with little bit 4th aswell.
I drove only for about 20mins untill car was warm so
i'll take later better log with more adaptation time.

I hear small hissing somewhere near IC lower chargepipe on idle but everything
is tightened properly and boost seems to get close to target?

https://datazap.me/u/beisofmarko/sta...og=0&data=3-24

How does the log look now, anything to be concerned about?
Should i reset vanos adaptations?

Thanks!
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      05-06-2018, 12:35 PM   #2114
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Little update to my earlier logs we talked about (page 89 & 90)

New intercooler arrived and i went and flashed to mhd stage 2+,
still few small partial throttle closures but not nearly as bad as earlier?

I created new log, 3rd gear pull with little bit 4th aswell.
I drove only for about 20mins untill car was warm so
i'll take later better log with more adaptation time.

I hear small hissing somewhere near IC lower chargepipe on idle but everything
is tightened properly and boost seems to get close to target?

https://datazap.me/u/beisofmarko/sta...og=0&data=3-24

How does the log look now, anything to be concerned about?
Should i reset vanos adaptations?

Thanks!
looks good add the wgdc to the log also next time
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      05-06-2018, 12:41 PM   #2115
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First log since the Wagner Evo1 and Stage 1+:
https://datazap.me/u/olivier/stg1v8b...=0&data=3-5-23

Still a long spool time/some lag when below 3000 RPM, and there is now a 1 PSI difference between Target/Actual boost when upper in RPM I wonder if going Custom Tune will help or if I'm better to start thinking about replacing the turbos (WGDC doesn't seems so high to me, so I believe they don't struggle so much - What do you think ?)

For reference, when I was full stock and Stage 1, last Winter (New Solenoids):
https://datazap.me/u/olivier/stg1v8b...=0&data=3-5-23

Boost was more on target...
You still have the same problem as the stage 1 map, spooltime i way to long because of unknown cause, if you solve that you will probably also have boost more on target.
The wgdc on stage 1 was 100, but on stage 1+ only 87, but it seems not to be any difference in lag anyway. Have you done a leaktest? Maybe the wg dont shut completely under spool but no one can tell you whats wrong just looking at the log, you have to do some problemsolving to rule out potential causes

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      05-06-2018, 02:44 PM   #2116
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Just flashed the stage 1 91 octane map today. I have no mods. Anyone mind letting me know how my logs look? Car felt pretty good.

https://datazap.me/u/minixp/log-1525...=0&data=2-3-21

https://datazap.me/u/minixp/log-1525...og=0&data=3-21
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Car is a 2009 135i
new NGK -1 plugs and coils
FBO. MHD E25 tune. 68,000 miles.
https://datazap.me/u/calebking/pulls...og=0&data=3-23
https://datazap.me/u/calebking/pulls-1?log=1&data=3-23

Let me know how things look. Thanks!
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      05-07-2018, 02:37 AM   #2118
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Just flashed the stage 1 91 octane map today. I have no mods. Anyone mind letting me know how my logs look? Car felt pretty good.

https://datazap.me/u/minixp/log-1525...=0&data=2-3-21

https://datazap.me/u/minixp/log-1525...og=0&data=3-21
Look ok, post shift corrections on all cylinders and your lpfp looks a little tired, i would watch lpfp pressure if you continue modding your car. But nothing big to worry about at the moment. Revs over 6000 is unnessesary
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Car is a 2009 135i
new NGK -1 plugs and coils
FBO. MHD E25 tune. 68,000 miles.
https://datazap.me/u/calebking/pulls...og=0&data=3-23
https://datazap.me/u/calebking/pulls-1?log=1&data=3-23

Let me know how things look. Thanks!
Boost a bit under target but otherwise it looks fine. Inlets would help the car breath better and lower the wgdc
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      05-07-2018, 02:47 AM   #2120
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Car is a 2009 135i
new NGK -1 plugs and coils
FBO. MHD E25 tune. 68,000 miles.
https://datazap.me/u/calebking/pulls...og=0&data=3-23
https://datazap.me/u/calebking/pulls-1?log=1&data=3-23

Let me know how things look. Thanks!
Boost a bit under target but otherwise it looks fine. Inlets would help the car breath better and lower the wgdc
Inlets?
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      05-07-2018, 02:52 AM   #2121
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Inlets?
http://www.vr-speed.com/vrsf-oem-loc...35i-1m-z4.html
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Inlets?
http://www.vr-speed.com/vrsf-oem-loc...35i-1m-z4.html
I have DCI and BMS charge pipe. Not sure where this is respectively in the system
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I have DCI and BMS charge pipe. Not sure where this is respectively in the system
Google and you will find out and learn more about your car
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      05-07-2018, 10:35 AM   #2124
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Throttle Closures Normal?

Anyone else getting some throttle closures under WOT when running 8.1 betas. I'm on 8.1 stage 1 (93 octane) and don't remember seeing this behavior before:

https://datazap.me/u/varjo/may-7-mhd...-9-10-11-21-24
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      05-08-2018, 09:17 PM   #2125
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You obviously have a tuner and if that's v1 as indicated, I'd give them time to clean it up, but you say it's suffered from that for a long time. How long have you been on version 1 and why is your tuner not reviewing your logs?

Requested load is huge and actual is well short, no reason your boost should be over target with it like that, especially if it's scaled as the name indicates. At least part of it looks to be boost over target.

DTC is fully off? MT or AT? 2.5 bar or 3.5 bar MAP?
Yeah i have great tuner ( Ken/Wedge ) and get revisions when needed.
This was moving to the 3.5Bar with new scaling so hence starting at v1.

I have had these issues even on the MHD ots maps so it's been around for awhile on my car.

Here is one of the circuit and coffee runs i had on the old v7.1 map and you can see the same step effect on the 2nd to 3rd shift.

https://datazap.me/u/napsterau/downs...27&zoom=95-166
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      05-08-2018, 10:04 PM   #2126
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Take A Look?

E82 MHD 2+ FBO 91 OCT 91k miles new NGK plugs
Lost to a Cobb Stage 1 Aggressive lol take a look at my logs please also i know my LPFP is tired and hanging in there


https://datazap.me/u/haro6161/5818-f...=0&data=3-4-25

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      05-08-2018, 11:29 PM   #2127
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Yeah i have great tuner ( Ken/Wedge ) and get revisions when needed.
This was moving to the 3.5Bar with new scaling so hence starting at v1.

I have had these issues even on the MHD ots maps so it's been around for awhile on my car.

Here is one of the circuit and coffee runs i had on the old v7.1 map and you can see the same step effect on the 2nd to 3rd shift.

https://datazap.me/u/napsterau/downs...27&zoom=95-166
Is the tranny flashed? Tranny fluid good/full? Looks almost like a torque intervention holding it back and/or a slip. Timing gets pulled huge on the shifts and it's not corrections. RPM is often jittery at the same times. If there's some mismatch between DME and TCU reported/expected data at shifts, they would obviously be out of sync. Either way, if it's done that on multiple tunes, I would suspect it's not the tune causing it and to look elsewhere. If the tranny is flashed, might try going back to the stock TCU bin and see if it gets better or worse. Heck, I'd even flash the DME Stage 0 with 3.5 bar option selected just to check if it does it on that to rule in/out the DME side completely.
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      05-09-2018, 01:28 AM   #2128
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E82 MHD 2+ FBO 91 OCT 91k miles new NGK plugs
Lost to a Cobb Stage 1 Aggressive lol take a look at my logs please also i know my LPFP is tired and hanging in there


https://datazap.me/u/haro6161/5818-f...=0&data=3-4-25
Lots of timing corrections, bad fuel?
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      05-09-2018, 03:15 AM   #2129
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Lots of timing corrections, bad fuel?
Possibly I do know California's 91 sucks maybe an octane booster ? Planing on adding meth kit soon. Also not sure how old the coils are they don't look that old but I haven't replaced them yet no issues though. But besides the timing does everything else look good?
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Possibly I do know California's 91 sucks maybe an octane booster ? Planing on adding meth kit soon. Also not sure how old the coils are they don't look that old but I haven't replaced them yet no issues though. But besides the timing does everything else look good?
Your O2 sensor(s) bank 1 dont look good either.
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      05-09-2018, 06:37 PM   #2131
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hey guys, took 2 logs on CA91 pisswater, no codes and car feels decent. getting some massive throttle closures, although Wedge says v8 maps use throttle differently than prior maps to control other variables.

how do they look?

https://datazap.me/u/blown95impalass...=0&data=3-5-22
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      05-10-2018, 10:11 AM   #2132
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MHD Data Log Review

If anyone can find anything suspicious/ that needs some attention on this log, please let me know.*Thanks! Its a 2011 E92 335i on 91 octane

https://datazap.me/u/andrewd1452/59-...-36&solo=30-36
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hey guys, took 2 logs on CA91 pisswater, no codes and car feels decent. getting some massive throttle closures, although Wedge says v8 maps use throttle differently than prior maps to control other variables.

how do they look?

https://datazap.me/u/blown95impalass...=0&data=3-5-22
Looks good, only throttle closures due to overboosting that is noticeable, but i have alot of that to with the v8 map
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If anyone can find anything suspicious/ that needs some attention on this log, please let me know.*Thanks! Its a 2011 E92 335i on 91 octane

https://datazap.me/u/andrewd1452/59-...-36&solo=30-36
Who has made the map? Looks very messy actually, timing corrections on almost every cylinder, OTS maps looks way better.
To much variables in the log, these in this log is enough https://datazap.me/u/blown95impalass...=0&data=3-5-22
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