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      05-20-2018, 02:41 PM   #1871
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the '330i' spec tune has been available for the 328i for a long time now. It will work on the 328xi, with the disclaimer that the oil level sensor will function but may not be as accurate.
Can you '330i' spec tune a n51 328i or is that not possible? I got AA headers and 3im looking for anything while i save up for a tune. thanks in advanced i know you guys are busy!
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      05-20-2018, 04:40 PM   #1872
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Can you '330i' spec tune a n51 328i or is that not possible? I got AA headers and 3im looking for anything while i save up for a tune. thanks in advanced i know you guys are busy!
We can flash a "stock" 330i tune to it, but since the N51 has a different compression ratio, I'm not 100% sure it will drive well.
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      05-21-2018, 02:22 PM   #1873
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Well, I for one am quite excited for the 328xi tune. I just picked my 3SM on Saturday. vroom vroom!

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      05-28-2018, 01:44 PM   #1874
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Put the last 7 digits of your VIN in a decoder (like http://bimmer.work) and it'll tell you every option code your car has.

In this particular case, didn't have to do much to make 130i power. Just grabbed the E87 (hatchback) 130i tune and changed the powerclass to match the 125i.

Yeah it should be those. Unless Australia got different tunes than the EU 125/130s, but I don't think that's the case.
This is available now to the 125i with type codes UC31, UC32, UL91, & UL92.

Also, I made the 328i tune generally available to the 328xi guys - however, note that I haven't checked to see if any 328xi's came with MSV80.1. I'm going to do some bench testing and see if I can make some sort of guide to figure out if you have this ahead of time.

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      05-31-2018, 12:15 PM   #1875
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This is available now to the 125i with type codes UC31, UC32, UL91, & UL92.

Also, I made the 328i tune generally available to the 328xi guys - however, note that I haven't checked to see if any 328xi's came with MSV80.1. I'm going to do some bench testing and see if I can make some sort of guide to figure out if you have this ahead of time.
Just to update the 'xi' issue - it looks like in most cases the 'xi' uses the same stock tunes as the 'i' does on MSV80 cars. So I'm confident that there will be no issue with the level sensor etc.

Also on the couple cars that had limp mode issues - I believe the ultimate cause was (at least one of them) had never been updated since it left the factory in 2007 - and it appears that it just needed to update the DME coding.

Finally, I have found another 330i file that I would like to try. It should give a factory MAF delete with an OEM 330i tune. This is NOT an alpha-N tune - you would want to replace the MAF with a euro IAT though.
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      06-02-2018, 04:47 AM   #1876
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Finally, I have found another 330i file that I would like to try. It should give a factory MAF delete with an OEM 330i tune. This is NOT an alpha-N tune - you would want to replace the MAF with a euro IAT though.
You've been running the MAFless tune for a while now right? What improvements have you noticed? Is fuel efficiency effected?
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      06-03-2018, 08:02 AM   #1877
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Hi guys, I'm from Sydney, Australia.
I have 125i 2009 model that has the 3 litre n52 defined from factory. It has the stage 3 DISA manifold from factory and it's detuned to 215HP which is less than the US 128i version. I was wondering if the 330i tune would work on my car. Thanks in advance.

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We could probably give you a 130i tune. In fact I'm pretty sure I've made one some time ago.


Gents, I have an Australian 130i. If you need anything from my ECU please get in touch. Email via the forum is probably the best way to get to me.
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      06-03-2018, 08:05 AM   #1878
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It shoudn't need anything really. Thats the advantage to using lambda - stoich is simply stoich. These cars have a really sophisticated O2 feedback system.

The old flex fuel GM cars needed an extra sensor because they were still basically running clones of 1980's Bosch hardware/software.

That said, who knows if the fuel system can keep up. And it remains to be seen if any gains are worth the hit in fuel economy

E85 is everywhere in Melbourne, AU and cheaper than 98RON.


I'm interested to see what we can gain on E85, what the fuel system can handle and if there are any negative consequences.


Maybe a summer (your winter) project.
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      06-03-2018, 02:29 PM   #1879
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DME may correct for E85, but most likely will throw too lean code.
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      06-03-2018, 04:30 PM   #1880
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Gents, I have an Australian 130i. If you need anything from my ECU please get in touch. Email via the forum is probably the best way to get to me.
130i tune is already available
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      06-04-2018, 01:52 AM   #1881
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Successfully deleted the RSA and flashed my MSV80 328xi to MSV80 330i / 330xi today.
I had a small incident during the RSA delete, I had a bunch of errors and saying the RSA delete was not successful / Not OK. INPA could communicate with the car. So I emailed BimmerLabs, he responded instantly to help me to solve the problem. He came to a conclusion he needed to make a program that can force an erase on the program.

The next day I tried to flash it again, I read the READ ME text file, then I realized my ignition was not on when I flash it. So if anyone who is planning to flash their car, REMEBER TO TURN THE IGNITION ON (without starting the engine). The whole process only took 15mins (RSA delete 10mins or even less, 328i to 330i took 30sec).

Started up the "330xi" and 4x4, hand brake, DTC, yellow engine light were on the dash, so I took it for a drive and cleared the codes. Started it up again, all the codes were gone.

For the first time, I felt a slight pressure pushing me against the seat. especially cruising @ 40km/h or below and pedal down, gear dropped from 3rd to 2nd, the rpm travels to redline so much fast, I was a bit mind blown.

I drove around the city for about 30mins, making quick turns in AUTO mode (not M mode), there were few times I speeded up a bit to make a 90 degree turn, once I exited the corner, I pedalled down and there was a short delay for the gear to drop, like a sluggish/short delayed response, but I assume after a short period of time, the car should adapt to the new tune.

Once again, thank you BimmerLabs for making the tune.

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      06-04-2018, 03:51 AM   #1882
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Bit of a random q here. With the recent recall on e90s, would having flashed my 325i to 330i be impacted in anyway by bmw techs during the repair?

Ps - flash still running strong and making me enjoy the car even more est March 2018
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      06-04-2018, 08:04 AM   #1883
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Unless there's another new recall, none of the previous ones had anything to do with the code running on the DME, so no, the techs won't be touching that.
I have an ICOM with ISTA+/ISTA-D, and it does not show anything as being different than a stock car.
I have not tried telling it to *upgrade* the DME... That would likely return it to a stock state, though if ISTA thought it was 330 code and tried to load a newer 330 code it might actually break things by loading a high power class data without an RSA delete program...

Edit: this comment is more about 328s. For the 325 it might be even safer.
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      06-04-2018, 10:21 AM   #1884
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Your UIF will still show the original code - so even if they flashed the DME, it would just go back to stock.

I wouldn't worry about it.
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      06-05-2018, 08:12 AM   #1885
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This is available now to the 125i with type codes UC31, UC32, UL91, & UL92.

Also, I made the 328i tune generally available to the 328xi guys - however, note that I haven't checked to see if any 328xi's came with MSV80.1. I'm going to do some bench testing and see if I can make some sort of guide to figure out if you have this ahead of time.
finaly, mine is UL91, I see 3 files, RSA delete, and other two:
With and Without option code 1CB (CO2 package)
what is difference for this two ?

and another question, If ecu is alredy unlocked by tuning tool, do I need to write RSA delete file ?
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      06-05-2018, 08:59 AM   #1886
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I would still write the RSA delete unless you already have the same program version. the tune will not work with a different program.

as far as what's different in the file, I don't know - you can use a BMW VIN decoder to see if you have option 1CB though.
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      06-06-2018, 08:13 AM   #1887
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Is there a tune on bimmerlabs for a fully stock BMW 128i n52 that could compare to the numbers of power like a AA or BPC tune would give? Which they claim 10-15whp on a stock car
No. It's a factory spec 330i/130/Z4si tune.
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Anyone try the MAF delete tune yet?
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      06-06-2018, 12:09 PM   #1889
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My car just threw a code for MAP Temperature Sensor, and ISTA+ just tells me that the diagnostic procedure is "Replace the MAP Temp Sensor".

I think the car only has one MAP sensor, and it measures MAP + IAT, so I was pondering just getting the euro MAP sensor and ditching the MAF at the same time...

Pondering.

So, yeah, I am wondering the same as you freedomfries
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      06-06-2018, 12:27 PM   #1890
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the MAP sensor is just a MAP sensor. the IAT is built into the MAF. If you get a euro IAT, it replaces the MAF.

it looks like several people have downloaded it but I haven't had any feedback. I think it will work fine (keeping in mind it will not past an OBD2 emissions test).

You should be able to test it with your factory MAF, it will just ignore the sensor reading. If there's some major problem, just go back to the original 328i-330i tune, it only takes 40 seconds to flash anyway.

Also I don't recommend a no-MAF tune if you have headers. At least not until the feedback loop gets sorted for the different O2 sensor position.
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      06-06-2018, 12:30 PM   #1891
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Ah, important distinction, thanks! I guess its N54 that integrates IAT with MAP.
A little confused why the car reported MAP Temp Sensor failure, if it doesn't really have one...

Maybe I'll just grab a can of MAF cleaner then... my car still has 4 years of OBD2 tests.
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It does have a MAP sensor. It's on the top rear of the intake manifold.
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