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      09-26-2013, 10:07 AM   #1
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Time for new tires

Hey guys, i'm looking to get a new set of tires, what are ya'll running?
I'm leaning towards the michelin pss non runflats at this time. What tire pressures would be good to run in them? I know that the stock bridgestones recommended pressures are pretty high. Any other recommendations for tires?
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      09-26-2013, 10:38 AM   #2
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I prefer my RFT Michelin PS2 ZP.

Thinking about the Bridgestone RE960A or 970A for my next set.

If you buy go-flat, I'd start tire pressures out at the same - pressure is not really predicated on type/construction, but the width and load.
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      09-26-2013, 11:06 AM   #3
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Michelin PSS - performance > tread life

Continental DW - tread life > performance

For the love of god, stay away from run-flats as you're sacrificing tread life, comfort and performance (compared to non RFT) for the peace of mind when your tire blows out (AAA anyone?). Costs more too.

I'm running Continental DW @ 33/40 as TireRack recommended.
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      09-26-2013, 11:15 AM   #4
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Michelin PSS - performance > tread life

Continental DW - tread life > performance

For the love of god, stay away from run-flats as you're sacrificing tread life, comfort and performance (compared to non RFT) for the peace of mind when your tire blows out (AAA anyone?). Costs more too.

I'm running Continental DW @ 33/40 as TireRack recommended.
I also have run flats even though I have AAA. I guess it gives me some peace of mind. Especially since the wife drives the car a lot. I wouldn't want her waiting on the side of the road for 30 minutes while AAA shows up. If it were me I could care less.
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      09-26-2013, 11:36 AM   #5
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I wouldn't want her waiting on the side of the road for 30 minutes while AAA shows up. If it were me I could care less.
Yes, you have a point there. I don't mind waiting for AAA as they've always arrived in a timely manner from my experience but I wouldn't want my girlfriend waiting on the side of the road in the middle of the night. Because SoCal screams nice and helpful people...
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What just happened to me guys is that I ran over a screw on the highway about 20 miles away from work and the warning came on that the right rear tire lost air pressure. I pulled over, looked at it and there was no way to plug it up. I ended up driving on the frontage road of the highway doing 50 almost all the way to work (because I work in a total bufu town) and got the tire patched and inflated. If I didnt have the factory runflat i would have had to wait 2 hours for a truck.. so it definitely saved me there. With the michelins i'm investing in a tire plug kit and a portable air compressor, total cost was just over $50.
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      09-26-2013, 11:45 AM   #7
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Yes, you have a point there. I don't mind waiting for AAA as they've always arrived in a timely manner from my experience but I wouldn't want my girlfriend waiting on the side of the road in the middle of the night. Because SoCal screams nice and helpful people...
LMAO You understand exactly what I mean!
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Id go HANKOOK Ventus lasted me 1 1/2 years here in Puerto Rico and thats A LOT to say and BTW they were already used by previous owner 6-8 mo earlier, but they have NO warranty here in the island. Good tires, currently im looking at Michelin Sport sold by COSTCO with road hazard warranty
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Id go HANKOOK Ventus lasted me 1 1/2 years here in Puerto Rico and thats A LOT to say and BTW they were already used by previous owner 6-8 mo earlier, but they have NO warranty here in the island. Good tires, currently im looking at Michelin Sport sold by COSTCO with road hazard warranty
i'm glad those are working out for ya, discount tire quoted me $932 for a set of michelin pss out the door, so i'll be going with that. i looked at tire prices at costco and they're crazy lol
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Bridgestone RE960 AS RFT.
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i'm glad those are working out for ya, discount tire quoted me $932 for a set of michelin pss out the door, so i'll be going with that. i looked at tire prices at costco and they're crazy lol
+1 on the Mich PSS, out the door for close to $1000 and got $70 rebate...basically same deal as joe. I have the compact spare, X5 scissor jack and craftsman 18" breaker bar w/17 mm deep socket.
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+1 on the Mich PSS, out the door for close to $1000 and got $70 rebate...basically same deal as joe. I have the compact spare, X5 scissor jack and craftsman 18" breaker bar w/17 mm deep socket.
bb where can i get a compact spare that would fit our bolt pattern?
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+1 on the Mich PSS, out the door for close to $1000 and got $70 rebate...basically same deal as joe. I have the compact spare, X5 scissor jack and craftsman 18" breaker bar w/17 mm deep socket.
bb where can i get a compact spare that would fit our bolt pattern?
I got mine at Bimmerzone.com. Sku: BIM-SST-E90-KIT.

I also got the Jack Kit, Tire Tray, and Tire Tote.
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I put Pirrelli P Zero Nero's on mine. $151/tire, same traction rating as Michelin and without the excessive wear problems. They grip fine, and are pretty quiet. I run 38psi F and 42psi R.
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bb where can i get a compact spare that would fit our bolt pattern?
i purchased one from Tischer BMW (getbmwparts.com). Hope that was okay to post here. Its basically an E60 17x4 steel rim and you then buy tire separately.

I purchased another at the salvage yard complete with 135/80R17 tire out of an E60 for $50!! Lucky find. This one is for a friend w/o spare in her 2007 328i
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Michelin PSS - performance > tread life

Continental DW - tread life > performance

For the love of god, stay away from run-flats as you're sacrificing tread life, comfort and performance (compared to non RFT) for the peace of mind when your tire blows out (AAA anyone?). Costs more too.

I'm running Continental DW @ 33/40 as TireRack recommended.
+1. The two best tires on the market.
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      09-27-2013, 11:40 PM   #18
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My next set will be Pilot Super Sports.

Another good option for slightly less is Continental Extreme Contact DW.


For a budget summer tire the Hankook Ventus V12s are a good buy.


Read the reviews for tires your looking at on Tire Rack. They post their reviews from their tests as well as reviews from the tire owners. The owner reviews are good because you can get an idea of people who share your driving style and needs and see how the tires worked for them.

Each of the tires listed above all have mostly positive reviews on Tire Rack and they span a good range of purchase prices. I've had all three on various cars and been pleased with all. The V12's are a great wallet friendly UHP Summer Tire. The Conti's were excellent on my Shelby. The Super Sports were the best of the three but at the price and being Michelins you'd expect that.
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I'd say it really depends on the tire category you want. I had Dunlop direzza z1 star spec on my last car and those were the greatest summer/rain tires I've ever seen. No good for snow though.
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Tire technology moves on as do RFT's. The third generation RFT's which appeared around mid to late 2010 on new BMW's but mostly on 2011's as far as I know are reportedly nearly identical in ride, handling, and durability to their non-RFT equivalents.

That said, Michelin is well known to have the best quality control over the years as has been my experience.

My uncle up until recently used to fix the machines that made the tires and he felt that the top tires of all the tire companies were very similar. He travelled around the world to different tire companies and speaks several languages including fluent German.

When replacing a worn tire, any new tire of similar quality will feel much better. The testimonials are difficult to interpret, as full comparisons often don't resemble what individuals on the Internet say. I would trust an official tire comparison test more.
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      09-28-2013, 10:04 AM   #21
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I have Michelin PSS on 19" wheels and they make that hollow high-pressure rubber sound almost constantly. Faint but it's there. They're also a but rough.

My next set will be the Conti DW's again. That's a great tire.
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I'm getting the Michelin X-ice Xi3 for this winter.

And next spring I'm going for the PSS on some black 19" AG M359s.
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