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-= 6NR ConnectedDrive Retrofit by Patrys =-
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04-11-2011, 05:05 PM | #45 | |
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I also gave an example of your own thread which was exactly at the same technical level! But I appreciate we can end it here and I hope others will respect it too. Thank you! |
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04-11-2011, 05:51 PM | #47 | |
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1. Any normal iPod dock to USB cable can be used, i.e. this doesn't require a cable with custom pin mappings between the dock connector and the USB port (since that cable isn't a BMW part, I thought you might use something like this and still be able to claim 100% BMW parts are being used). 2. There is no splicing or tapping of wires required, or any other arguably destructive procedure. 3. The 100% OEM parts being used are 100% unmodified except for software reconfiguration, i.e. not physically reconfigured, rewired, or otherwise taken apart or altered into some different configuration. Last edited by jphughan; 04-11-2011 at 05:56 PM.. |
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04-11-2011, 06:11 PM | #49 |
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04-11-2011, 11:32 PM | #50 | |
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You should be glad he found a way to make the plugin function avalable before the snap-in adapter get released in the summer, that in itself is a big accomplishment that we all should be thankful for. Not only his kit is available now, its also significant cheaper. Saw that you been posting a lot on the Coding forum, i guess you want info so you can share it with your buddies, sh8t you still dont even have your M3 If i was Patryk i would ignore all your posts and wouldn't even sell you the kit even if you paid more than his asking price. He doesn't need your business. Last edited by nelson29; 04-11-2011 at 11:38 PM.. |
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04-12-2011, 07:49 AM | #51 | |
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I don't really have any interest in sharing the details of Patrys' implementation with others, but then again if Patrys were willing to give them as he seems to be at some point in the future, that wouldn't be necessary since they'd now already be on a public forum anyway. I asked for details purely out of technical curiosity because I like cars and work in IT, so car technology brings two of my interests together. Is it so terrible to be purely curious about how something works on a forum anymore?? If Patrys doesn't want to share details at least at this time, then that's his privilege, but you're making it sound like it's not even right/allowed to ask -- especially in the TECHNICAL section of the forum -- "broh". Last edited by jphughan; 04-12-2011 at 08:07 AM.. |
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04-12-2011, 08:30 AM | #52 |
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Hi Patryk,
I've just a few question to clarify concerning the 6NR retrofit. 1.) Does it work in E60/E61? 2.) Does it provide full 6NR functionality like Video out, BMW Apps and Plug-in? 3.) Is the only downside - compared to the upcomming Video snap-in - that there is no connection to the external antenna. All other functions are maintained? Thanks for your answers. Matt |
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04-12-2011, 08:45 AM | #53 | |
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1.No love for the E6x 2.Yes, everything works fine - BMW Apps, Plugin and Video - all tested and presented on the pictures in this thread by MEN and myself 3.I guess the antenna connection is the only difference, but if you have the USB cable connection you do not have to keep the phone in the armrest all the time Oh you will not have the AUX either, but if you have iPhone4 the audio goes over USB anyway... |
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04-12-2011, 09:02 AM | #54 |
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I thought I read BMW Assist in disabled with this mod?
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04-12-2011, 09:10 AM | #55 |
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04-12-2011, 03:49 PM | #56 | ||
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I could be wrong but answering the three questions above, asked by jphughan, shouldn't "give away" any secrets but would put this modification concern to rest once and for all. |
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04-12-2011, 04:42 PM | #57 | |
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The E60 was never intended/designed to have the Combox so there are particular hardware and software differences in that particular chassis that make some the OEM parts -regardless if they are modified or not- simply not to work. |
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04-12-2011, 04:50 PM | #58 | |
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Just wait a bit and you will see some first reviews... The BMW implementation of the 6NR includes the new base plate and snap-in adapter, but we found a way to enable all 6NR features without those parts using different OEM parts Keep in mind that to install new base plate and snap-in adapter in cars that did not get the new base plate from factory you will have to add/change some wiring too. People who think they can just add new snap-in adapter to their old base plate will be disappointed to see it's not that easy. |
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04-12-2011, 06:20 PM | #59 | ||
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04-12-2011, 08:05 PM | #60 | |
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That would get you video signalling over a USB port which wouldn't be possible otherwise and would meet the 100% OEM parts criteria, but of course it would mean your dock-to-USB cable or adapter wouldn't be easily replaceable if it were broken or lost and would also leave your iPhone electrically ungrounded (Apple's spec for this requires a ground pin for USB and another for the video tap), not to mention resulting in a bit of a "frankenbuild". It might also explain why this process breaks AUX input since the car would not appear to have 6FL anymore -- I believe AUX input is part of 6FL even after the 2011.5 changes and therefore might be rendered unusable from the coding required to remove 6FL so the car wouldn't throw errors that it's now missing. I'm not sure why this would also break BMW Assist in non-Combox cars, but that could be the result of custom iDrive software being installed rather than the hardware mods. But of course this is all speculation on my part. Last edited by jphughan; 06-25-2011 at 07:24 PM.. |
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04-12-2011, 08:44 PM | #61 |
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It's impossible to retrofit the 6nr without COMBOX. You need to have the combox installed to retrofit 6nr, no way around it. Now if you need to retrofit it(cars produced before 09/10) you will lose Assist. I'm pretty sure you can figure out why.
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04-13-2011, 01:22 AM | #62 | |
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No splicing or tapping into OEM wiring Sherlock Holmes |
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04-13-2011, 06:22 AM | #64 | |
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I am sure it's just a matter of time... |
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04-13-2011, 07:36 AM | #65 |
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BMW Apps doesn't use iPod out -- iPod out is one part of the BMW Apps option. While some parts of BMW apps (Internat radio, the BMW Connected app, etc) are a data signal, iPod out and video playback aren't -- if they were then BMW could have enabled it over USB from the factory. It's a video signal generated and rendered by the iPhone itself, not a USB signal decoded by iDrive.
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04-13-2011, 07:41 AM | #66 |
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Ok.... not sure what the laugh and smile emoticons were. Nothing in my speculation involved a splice or a tap into an OEM wire, just moving them around. But if what I suggested is essentially what you're doing then if it were my car I'd be worried about the 2 missing ground connections and the proprietary dock-to-USB cable or adapter. And since you haven't answered the other two questions from my earlier post even though you just answered one of them I'm inclined to think that the reason is because the solution does indeed involve something like what I suggested.
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