Vishnu PROcede v2 update

jonm42 · 08-22-2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by normtrum

I did that about 10 years ago.....sort of.....I keep a debit card. 0 credit card dept =

By the way.... thanks vishnu guys. I'm expecting Dustin to fly to Seattle to do my upgrade, since he did the initially install.

Only if I get to stop by on my way. And only if he gets another magnificent driving machine like the Cobalt he got last time

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e.n335 · 08-23-2007, 12:35 AM

Great news. I love the user selectable torque feature, especially when you put on more mod's that increase torque as well ( intercooler, downpipes ).

Some time ago you mentioned that a optional a dedicated o2 sensor can used. I hope this option will be released later. According to the picture we will get a little white or grey box as well with the harness. My guess is that there will be a relay inside for the switched power support.

So after a long period of waiting time you released again a great bundle of features. I am pretty sure that the competition will not be able to catch up short- or mid-term.

Thank you, congratulations and all the best,

Eugen

ni66ale · 08-23-2007, 03:42 AM

how much is for procede v2?

Jonmartin · 08-23-2007, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cn555ic

I say about 150 or so?? That my guess

cents? lol he can't charge that much for something thats supposed to be free in the first place and 2 wires cost about $0.75 so

e.n335 · 08-23-2007, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

cents? lol he can't charge that much for something thats supposed to be free in the first place and 2 wires cost about $0.75 so

- relay
- box
- connectors
- wires
- assembling and shipping labor
- some extra connectors for further options
- shipping fee

My guess is $100 - $150. A fair price for what you will get. If it will cost like that you won't buy it ? I don't believe so

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bnj · 08-23-2007, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Actually, the wire will cost more than $1:

Actual costs:
wire... $.02
Bmw pin... $0.75
PRocede pin... $0.85
Crimp labor.. $1.0

total: $2.62

And double that if you need 2 wires.

And don't forget another $3 for shipping.

So yes, the updates aren't completely free. But you may have to skimp on a couple of chai tea lattes to pay for it. Sorry

Cheers,
shiv

Shipping from out of US can be more, however.

e.n335 · 08-23-2007, 07:27 AM

^ Why should Shiv not be paid for his efforts ? IMHO he will not charge for R&D. We all are paid for our work ...

BTW it depends on his marketing. When he keeps V1 as the standard and sells V2 as an option, he could sell V2 for $300 or $400 as well

My 2 cents.

Cheers
Eugen

sflgator · 08-23-2007, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Valentine

Shiv,
Is there any way to get you guys to take paypal? I hate the idea of going and getting a credit card just for one purchase.....I will if i have to, but I just got done cutting my last one up about 2 weeks ago. ( $0 credit card debt!!!! finally)

Don't you have a Visa or MC check card (the $$ comes directly from your checking acct.)?

bnj · 08-23-2007, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

...Some (not all) new features include:
...
6) Road speed power output (precursor to launch control and gear-dependant boost control).
...
As it stands right now, we have developed a 100% plug-in v2 update harness if you want all the features except for #6 and #7. For #6, you will need to extract the road speed signal wire from the ECU harness (like the 4 wires you extracted when you installed the PROcede in the first place)....
Cheers,
shiv

I wonder if launch control is really this easy mod at the user end. Just extracting one wire? Don't we connect it anywhere? I guess road speed signal extraction serves for the other feature as well, that we are all eagerly waiting for, and that has been discussed more than enough already...

bnj · 08-23-2007, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

^ Why should Shiv not be paid for his efforts ?

I hope you are not asking me? I merely put the the info up that has been asked and answered several times already.

But if you are asking me what his reasons might be, I can speculate that he can ask higher price for the V1 than what the competition is asking and even more importantly I think that his sales of V1 is high (partly) because of the V2 upgrade is free. But this is just speculation. You really need to ask him for the reasons. I don't know though, if his business practises should be within the forum discussion.

sflgator · 08-23-2007, 07:48 AM

Let's not speculate about extra cost right now; Shiv will determine what's a fair price for the v2.0 upgrade. With that said, I remember Shiv saying something around a $100 or so. Remember, the PROcede s/w updates are always free.

Valentine · 08-23-2007, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sflgator

Don't you have a Visa or MC check card (the $$ comes directly from your checking acct.)?

I can get one but at the moment I have a debit card and an angry wife.

DrDomer · 08-23-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonmartin

How can u switch maps without a switch? Some kind of pedal dance or something?DCT button?

Transmitter buttons on the rearview mirror has been discussed. I might want a map switch function for several reasons. If I'm gonna take my car in to get oil changed I might want it on the stock map. If I'm gonna have my wife drive the car I might want it on the stock map. The only problem I see with switching maps frequently is the "adaptation" time of the car's ECU may result in underperformance for a while after a switch. You could even use the map switch feature to change between a max HP/torque map for the once in a while high speed adventure, but then switch to a lower HP/torque map for day to day driving (to preserve tranny life

).

e.n335 · 08-23-2007, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valentine

I can get one but at the moment I have a debit card and an angry wife.

Be creative to make your wife happy ...

Mr. 5 · 08-23-2007, 09:48 AM

I can't wait to dyno this and add it to the other list of dynos.

I will assure the community that dynos will be performed and added to all of the others.

--That's why I need to be one of the first to get one when they're ready.

bnj · 08-23-2007, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e.n335

Be creative to make your wife happy ...

I think you have a typo there. Just rearrange the crea to erec

HyperM3 · 08-23-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bnj

I think you have a typo there. Just rearrange the crea to erec

Whats "erective" mean?

Mr. 5 · 08-23-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HyperM3

Whats "erective" mean?

If I look at your avatar long enough, I might get there.

Dr_Dirt · 08-23-2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bnj

I hope you are not asking me? I merely put the the info up that has been asked and answered several times already.

But if you are asking me what his reasons might be, I can speculate that he can ask higher price for the V1 than what the competition is asking and even more importantly I think that his sales of V1 is high (partly) because of the V2 upgrade is free. But this is just speculation. You really need to ask him for the reasons. I don't know though, if his business practises should be within the forum discussion.

+1

normtrum · 08-23-2007, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I can't wait to dyno this and add it to the other list of dynos.

I will assure the community that dynos will be performed and added to all of the others.

--That's why I need to be one of the first to get one when they're ready.

Hey with the effort you made doing all those other dyno's I personally think you deserve to be the first one. Probably won't happen, but ya never know.

mayno · 08-23-2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valentine

Shiv,
Is there any way to get you guys to take paypal? I hate the idea of going and getting a credit card just for one purchase.....I will if i have to, but I just got done cutting my last one up about 2 weeks ago. ( $0 credit card debt!!!! finally)

there are things called VISA and MC checkcard debit cards...deducts money from your checking or savings account.

JayML · 08-23-2007, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valentine

Shiv,
Is there any way to get you guys to take paypal? I hate the idea of going and getting a credit card just for one purchase.....I will if i have to, but I just got done cutting my last one up about 2 weeks ago. ( $0 credit card debt!!!! finally)

would like paypal as well as i have money in that account and would like to use it first

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e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	Great news. I love the user selectable torque feature, especially when you put on more mod's that increase torque as well ( intercooler, downpipes ). Some time ago you mentioned that a optional a dedicated o2 sensor can used. I hope this option will be released later. According to the picture we will get a little white or grey box as well with the harness. My guess is that there will be a relay inside for the switched power support. So after a long period of waiting time you released again a great bundle of features. I am pretty sure that the competition will not be able to catch up short- or mid-term. Thank you, congratulations and all the best, Eugen Last edited by e.n335; 08-23-2007 at 06:37 AM..
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e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	^ Why should Shiv not be paid for his efforts ? IMHO he will not charge for R&D. We all are paid for our work ... BTW it depends on his marketing. When he keeps V1 as the standard and sells V2 as an option, he could sell V2 for $300 or $400 as well My 2 cents. Cheers Eugen
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