It's official - stock pads aren't good enough for the track

leftcoastman · 02-28-2008, 11:20 AM

On prior weekends, I had gone to the track and experienced pretty soft pedal action, probably due to not bleeding my brakes after a long winter.

Last weekend I flushed my fluid and headed back to the track for an open day. The pedal action was rock hard, indicating that the fluid was holding up juuuust fine.

However, the stock pads severely overheated and just couldn't slow the car down effectively. I was pressing hard, the pedal was hard, but I just wasn't slowing down much.

I've been to this track ~15 times, so I'm pretty consistent with my braking points. With the stock pads (compared to Porterfield R-4 in front), I had to initiate braking waaaaay earlier as the session wore on.

The rub is that the stock pads are free and get replaced free, whereas these damn R4 pads cost $190 for the fronts alone! At roughly 3 weekends on a set of front pads, this could get expensive.

uberschnell · 02-28-2008, 10:19 PM

I'll be trying out the Axxis ultimates and DBA rotors next weekend at Thunderhill. I'll report back.

S4to335 · 02-28-2008, 11:18 PM

I used Axxis ultimates on my Stoptechs (on my Audi) and they worked ok...not great. Let us know what you think.

Ray · 02-29-2008, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Magna3

I'll be trying out the Axxis ultimates and DBA rotors next weekend at Thunderhill. I'll report back.

I am curious how this combination pairs with this car and look forward to your feedback

Joekerr · 02-29-2008, 10:59 PM

Anyone tried Hawk HPS? I love them for the street - never raced though, so I'm not certain. They're expensive too, but not as bad as $190.

Feffman · 03-01-2008, 08:43 AM

I've had great success with CarboTech (www.CTBrakes.com) pads on all my cars.

Feff
www.MVPTrackTime.com

2e9x's · 03-01-2008, 09:31 AM

I ran the Hawk HPS on my e46 and really disliked them in all regards. While less dusty, they rattled in the caliper a lot and were not suitable for the track. Fade was bad and pedal feel left something to be desired.

On my track car I ran Porterfield R4's and was really happy with them.

uberschnell · 03-01-2008, 10:56 AM

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not suitable for the track. Fade was bad and pedal feel left something to be desired.

Exactly what I was told, and why I'm trying the axxis.

02-28-2008, 11:20 AM	#1
leftcoastman Lieutenant Colonel 52 Rep 1,714 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Near some canyons iTrader: (1)	It's official - stock pads aren't good enough for the track On prior weekends, I had gone to the track and experienced pretty soft pedal action, probably due to not bleeding my brakes after a long winter. Last weekend I flushed my fluid and headed back to the track for an open day. The pedal action was rock hard, indicating that the fluid was holding up juuuust fine. However, the stock pads severely overheated and just couldn't slow the car down effectively. I was pressing hard, the pedal was hard, but I just wasn't slowing down much. I've been to this track ~15 times, so I'm pretty consistent with my braking points. With the stock pads (compared to Porterfield R-4 in front), I had to initiate braking waaaaay earlier as the session wore on. The rub is that the stock pads are free and get replaced free, whereas these damn R4 pads cost $190 for the fronts alone! At roughly 3 weekends on a set of front pads, this could get expensive.
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uberschnell Brigadier General 675 Rep 4,080 Posts Drives: Wide Body 1 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (48)	I'll be trying out the Axxis ultimates and DBA rotors next weekend at Thunderhill. I'll report back.
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S4to335 Brigadier General 434 Rep 4,380 Posts Drives: 2014 Audi A4 / 91 Track Miata Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (5) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i sedan [8.00]	I used Axxis ultimates on my Stoptechs (on my Audi) and they worked ok...not great. Let us know what you think. __________________ Car is now gone .... :-(
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Joekerr Banned 7929 Rep 1,923 Posts Drives: 2017 Audi S6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	Anyone tried Hawk HPS? I love them for the street - never raced though, so I'm not certain. They're expensive too, but not as bad as $190.
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Feffman Banned 23 Rep 337 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gateway To The West iTrader: (0)	I've had great success with CarboTech (www.CTBrakes.com) pads on all my cars. Feff www.MVPTrackTime.com
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2e9x's Major 50 Rep 1,137 Posts Drives: 335i ED 7/07 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: A Sunny Place iTrader: (2)	I ran the Hawk HPS on my e46 and really disliked them in all regards. While less dusty, they rattled in the caliper a lot and were not suitable for the track. Fade was bad and pedal feel left something to be desired. On my track car I ran Porterfield R4's and was really happy with them. __________________ 2010 Evo X - silver with a big, stupid wing on the back 2009 VW CC - Black/Black - with a 2011 328i on order to replace it - ED 8/1/11
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