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      04-25-2020, 07:26 PM   #45
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If you have most of the OEM bits then cut up the trunk handle and put in the OEM camera.
Sure this is my plan but I don't have a OEM camera yet and I don't know
is my TRSVC module is working. That's why I would like to somehow connect my cheap RCA camera to see if module is working.
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Appreciated for following up. Yeap. I am waiting my oem wiring harness from Europe. As soon as it gets here I am doing the oem retrofit.
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I calibrated the Camera with INPA, with ISTA it didn‘t worked..

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I wouldnt cut of the trunk. I bought cheap Chinese handles for the Chinese Emulator. Now i am upgrading to OEM module so i installed the f10 camera on chinese handle. No need to cut and yes I am the only person who has done this way :



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Problem with those small boot handles is you can't get your fingers in the same. I have fairly large hands and hated the feel of the Chinese handle. Cutting out the boot lid for the larger (including camera) OEM camera was a must for me.
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Problem with those small boot handles is you can't get your fingers in the same. I have fairly large hands and hated the feel of the Chinese handle. Cutting out the boot lid for the larger (including camera) OEM camera was a must for me.
What does it look like on your car?
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What does it look like on your car?
Exactly as it does on an F31
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I wouldnt cut of the trunk. I bought cheap Chinese handles for the Chinese Emulator. Now i am upgrading to OEM module so i installed the f10 camera on chinese handle. No need to cut and yes I am the only person who has done this way :

How did you install the camera in the handle? Did you just epoxy the camera into the handle?
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Problem with those small boot handles is you can't get your fingers in the same. I have fairly large hands and hated the feel of the Chinese handle. Cutting out the boot lid for the larger (including camera) OEM camera was a must for me.
I don't know, but I do not have any problem with the size or the function. I think it is perfect for me and I am 5 11, my hands are pretty big. And OEM camera must for me as well. That's why I have gone thru all this after having a perfectly working Chinese set like less than 2 months old
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How did you install the camera in the handle? Did you just epoxy the camera into the handle?
U need to remove the plastic cover around the oem camera, then use a drill bit to open a little over 18mm on that Chinese camera hole. Then put silicone all around and press it. When it dries it look so damn good. and put the silicone cover around to hide the imperfections. Thats it!

I will never going to cut my trunk for the camera. It is just me. I like oem application but also like to keep it oem

But it looks pretty good if you can cut it right for the FX handle.

Here is how it looks like :



And this is the differences between Chinese handle Vs F10 m5 handle :

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Does anyone have the part number for the 10 pin connector that powers the TRSVC?

EDIT.... Part number is 61139132577

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is having an e84 module is a must?
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is having an e84 module is a must?
e84 PDC has an additional coding option for RVC and TVC also controlling the Parking menu with Camera screen such as turning on and off when u engage/disengage the shift or when u turn the car off . If u re using the e9x PDC because it never introduced with camera, what happens is when u re using the Chinese EMulator with that PDC, it does not turn the CIC Parking menu off when ur shift is disengage or car turned off, and it stays up until u turn the car completely off which means u need to either press the start stop button 2 times (First Turn off the car second turn everything off) or press Parking button right before shut the car off otherwise if u just shut the car off with pressing the stop button once parking button will not function due to PDC only works when the ignition is ON

Also because of the RVC and TVC option on e84, it sends additional Can signal to TRSVC to start/stop broadcasting for the camera. Without the e84 PDC no one going to wake the TRSVC on and u will never going to see the camera screen on CIC, it will only show the PDC unless u re using Chinese EMulators. Because Chinese emulator is always awake and up and when PDC gets the signal from reverse shift, that turns the Parking menu on and because the Chinese Emulator aways Up, it broadcasts and allows u to see the camera screen and no need additional Can signal from PDC.

In parking menu the Brain is PDC, TRSVC is working for PDC!

But if the whole point is using the OEM application, YES e84 PDC is must!
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U need to remove the plastic cover around the oem camera, then use a drill bit to open a little over 18mm on that Chinese camera hole. Then put silicone all around and press it. When it dries it look so damn good. and put the silicone cover around to hide the imperfections. Thats it!

I will never going to cut my trunk for the camera. It is just me. I like oem application but also like to keep it oem

But it looks pretty good if you can cut it right for the FX handle.

Here is how it looks like :



And this is the differences between Chinese handle Vs F10 m5 handle :

IDK why I never thought of that. I have not seen as creative of a retrofit for the E9X in a very long time.
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IDK why I never thought of that. I have not seen as creative of a retrofit for the E9X in a very long time.
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e84 PDC has an additional coding option for RVC and TVC also controlling the Parking menu with Camera screen such as turning on and off when u engage/disengage the shift or when u turn the car off . If u re using the e9x PDC because it never introduced with camera, what happens is when u re using the Chinese EMulator with that PDC, it does not turn the CIC Parking menu off when ur shift is disengage or car turned off, and it stays up until u turn the car completely off which means u need to either press the start stop button 2 times (First Turn off the car second turn everything off) or press Parking button right before shut the car off otherwise if u just shut the car off with pressing the stop button once parking button will not function due to PDC only works when the ignition is ON

Also because of the RVC and TVC option on e84, it sends additional Can signal to TRSVC to start/stop broadcasting for the camera. Without the e84 PDC no one going to wake the TRSVC on and u will never going to see the camera screen on CIC, it will only show the PDC unless u re using Chinese EMulators. Because Chinese emulator is always awake and up and when PDC gets the signal from reverse shift, that turns the Parking menu on and because the Chinese Emulator aways Up, it broadcasts and allows u to see the camera screen and no need additional Can signal from PDC.

In parking menu the Brain is PDC, TRSVC is working for PDC!

But if the whole point is using the OEM application, YES e84 PDC is must!
After installing TRSVC module did you route new cables from TRSVC to CIC?
Or I can just use RCA cable from Chinese retrofit and connect to TRSVC.

I saw also that 3 cables from TRSVC need to be connected to CIC instead of 2 from Chinese retrofit
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e84 PDC has an additional coding option for RVC and TVC also controlling the Parking menu with Camera screen such as turning on and off when u engage/disengage the shift or when u turn the car off . If u re using the e9x PDC because it never introduced with camera, what happens is when u re using the Chinese EMulator with that PDC, it does not turn the CIC Parking menu off when ur shift is disengage or car turned off, and it stays up until u turn the car completely off which means u need to either press the start stop button 2 times (First Turn off the car second turn everything off) or press Parking button right before shut the car off otherwise if u just shut the car off with pressing the stop button once parking button will not function due to PDC only works when the ignition is ON

Also because of the RVC and TVC option on e84, it sends additional Can signal to TRSVC to start/stop broadcasting for the camera. Without the e84 PDC no one going to wake the TRSVC on and u will never going to see the camera screen on CIC, it will only show the PDC unless u re using Chinese EMulators. Because Chinese emulator is always awake and up and when PDC gets the signal from reverse shift, that turns the Parking menu on and because the Chinese Emulator aways Up, it broadcasts and allows u to see the camera screen and no need additional Can signal from PDC.

In parking menu the Brain is PDC, TRSVC is working for PDC!

But if the whole point is using the OEM application, YES e84 PDC is must!
thank you ok I will try to order an e84 pdc I saw one but it has front and rear pdc. my bmw e82 1m has only rear PDC I guess I will have errors in ista when I scan it like whats happening now I get error only in trsvc because my trsvc came from e70 with the surround option. I bought my kit from bimmer retrofit NBT EVO. with e series emulator.

is that ok? I mean I need an e84 pdc
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oh currently in my car is the trsvc surround module for e70 with camera. and I also have trsvc camera from f30 with only reverse camera only. bimmer retrofit told me that because my car was an e82 and I have a e series nbt evo emulator better to get the e series trsvc camera module as that is the only one that will work for me car. not sure if icam will work with my setup but I just want to have a backup camera so that my 1m will be like same infotainment as the m2
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oh currently in my car is the trsvc surround module for e70 with camera. and I also have trsvc camera from f30 with only reverse camera only. bimmer retrofit told me that because my car was an e82 and I have a e series nbt evo emulator better to get the e series trsvc camera module as that is the only one that will work for me car. not sure if icam will work with my setup but I just want to have a backup camera so that my 1m will be like same infotainment as the m2
I can not 100 percent answer that question. I also have f10 m5 TRSVC at the moment. And that damn retrofit cable stucked at the custom and no one doing anything so I can not progress on my DIY.

But after making many many researches what I see clearly that F series TRSVC uses CANBUS 1 just like the E series. F series PDC uses the CAN2 line. So TRSVC in theory should work with E series Without any issue!



And does not matter you use E series TRSVC or F series TRSVC you will not be able to code it on NCSExpert anyway. Even tho you can code it somehow, there is no point because there is nothing to code on TRSVC module. And Hitch Zoom Option can be coded under CIC with changing the Value of MACRO_TRAILER_COUPLING to Aktiv .
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oh currently in my car is the trsvc surround module for e70 with camera. and I also have trsvc camera from f30 with only reverse camera only. bimmer retrofit told me that because my car was an e82 and I have a e series nbt evo emulator better to get the e series trsvc camera module as that is the only one that will work for me car. not sure if icam will work with my setup but I just want to have a backup camera so that my 1m will be like same infotainment as the m2
I can not 100 percent answer that question. I also have f10 m5 TRSVC at the moment. And that damn retrofit cable stucked at the custom and no one doing anything so I can not progress on my DIY.

But after making many many researches what I see clearly that F series TRSVC uses CANBUS 1 just like the E series. F series PDC uses the CAN2 line. So TRSVC in theory should work with E series Without any issue!



And does not matter you use E series TRSVC or F series TRSVC you will not be able to code it on NCSExpert anyway. Even tho you can code it somehow, there is no point because there is nothing to code on TRSVC module. And Hitch Zoom Option can be coded under CIC with changing the Value of MACRO_TRAILER_COUPLING to Aktiv .
Oh ok thanks. Just really want to have the backup camera work.
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I just installed my TRSVC and PDC from E84. Camera from F10

All is working perfect! Flash new modules to match vin number.

Big thanks to SaNGRia for his help and for other from this thread.

If someone is looking for PDC module and CIC reverse camera emulator
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Great Job buddy. Nothing better than OEM. And thank you also helping me out flashing Congrats!
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Hi

Anyone success retrofit top view with camera in mirror ?

Trsvc e70 is work but i don't know if mirror have space for camera
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