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      01-08-2018, 05:47 AM   #23
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Note that any image you receive will likely require adjustment, as:

1. Most here will provide you an ECE (Europe/US) drive image, so it will not match your region (assuming you are in Asia); and
2. There is a VIN-specific key in partition 10. This is a backup of keys found in your flash, but these may need to be deleted before the drive is accepted by your car. Others may be able to provide a more definitive answer.

Which hard drive are you going to use? The CIC is very particular, only a few drives are recognized by the CIC. (Most Toshiba drives seem to work, and I know this IDE/SSD adapter works: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 )

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Note that any image you receive will likely require adjustment, as:

1. Most here will provide you an ECE (Europe/US) drive image, so it will not match your region (assuming you are in Asia); and
2. There is a VIN-specific key in partition 10. This is a backup of keys found in your flash, but these may need to be deleted before the drive is accepted by your car. Others may be able to provide a more definitive answer.

Which hard drive are you going to use? The CIC is very particular, only a few drives are recognized by the CIC. (Most Toshiba drives seem to work, and I know this IDE/SSD adapter works: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 )
Please tell me which partition contains VIN-specific key? And how to delete this key?
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Hi,

I have cloned the ssd however I am stuck on the part of resizing the music partition to use the extra space.

Any help would be appreciated.

Many thanks,
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      07-09-2018, 04:36 PM   #26
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See first post on this page: https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sh...=841458&page=8
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      07-29-2018, 04:36 PM   #27
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How much faster is this?? Is the nav faster?
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      07-29-2018, 05:04 PM   #28
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The initial boot up is not vastly faster as the system still must boot from flash ram as it always does.

At the points the hard drive is active or in use there is a noticeable improvement in speed.

E.g. Scrolling the maps, switching to the satellite view, 3D buildings in cities, searching for POI's, etc. all are quicker.
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      08-07-2018, 09:54 AM   #29
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Regarding the key on the partition. My CIC was a retrofit in the first place so it never had the proper VIN. I just took and image of my drive. I would be willing to share it if someone has a place where I can upload an 80 gig file.

For that matter if anyone has already resized the disk to work on the Zheino 128gb IDE SSD 128GB PATA SSD I would appreciate getting that image because it would save a lot of manual effort.
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Hey all so FWIW I successfully cloned the drive. But I did not resize it.

This is what I did and it was very simple. I first started with clonezilla and that was a miserable failure. I then said screw it, I'm doing a bit by bit copy.

1) Installed the ubuntu live CD onto a thumb drive
2) Booted my computer into that
3) Connected the CIC HDD via an IDE to usb connector (cheap on amazon)
4) ran a DD command dd if=/dev/sdc of=idrive-backup.img bs=64k status=progress
5) Then used this image to restore it to the new drive with command dd if=idrive-backup.img of=/dev/sdc

/dev/sdc will change from system to system, the idiots way to get this info is to plug in the drive and then run gparted from the command line. This will open up a graphical partition editor where there is a drop down menu showing all the connected drives and their drive letter, sdc in my case.

By very careful not to mix up the if (input) and of(output) command or you will copy data in the wrong direction and blank out your drive.

I did this primarily to back up the drive since it's 10 years old and a spinning disk in a moving car.

I may try to resize the partition sometime.
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If you guys are looking for more storage or just a little more speed, take a look at 7200 rpm drives.


I've been running this 7200 rpm Hitachi hard drive for over 3 years without any problems. Hitachi drives are without a doubt the most reliable disk drives made. (now known as HGST after WD bought them)

Have you ever had to use this in below freezing temps? My understanding with spinning disks has been you need to use automotive grade ones for the shock and temperatures. A traditional laptop might by uncertain.
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Hi I'm going to upgrade my HDD to SSD...already bought the parts. There's one issue I couldn't find any recommendation for:
When removing the HDD from the car - is it best to disconnect the battery before?
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Hi I'm going to upgrade my HDD to SSD...already bought the parts. There's one issue I couldn't find any recommendation for:
When removing the HDD from the car - is it best to disconnect the battery before?
I did not disconnect the battery the 6 times I connected or disconnected mine. But if you're concerned it's not too much effort to disconnect the battery.

FWIW I'm on week 3 or so of this SSD and it seems fine. Really no performance improvement I'm just paranoid of a 10 year old spinning disk in a moving object dying at some point.

I'll see how it does in the heat of summer though.
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Thank you!
The SSD I bought is RECADATA 128G. Reasonably priced.
It's industrial grade with working temp -40c - 85c. That should hold during summer. Plan to use it with Ableconn IIDE-MSAT mSATA to IDE adaptor. I wonder if anyone has tried this combination?
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      10-31-2018, 07:34 PM   #35
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I bought the same Recadata SSD, and for the same reason. You need to be careful with the adapter as the CIC chipset is picky, but it appears that the Ablecomm adapter will work.

I made a guide on upgrading to SSD here : https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1426773
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Can anyone share his hdd image please? I managed to screw my navigation with bad map update, so I'm trying to rescue it somehow. Thanks!
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Hey all so FWIW I successfully cloned the drive. But I did not resize it.

This is what I did and it was very simple. I first started with clonezilla and that was a miserable failure. I then said screw it, I'm doing a bit by bit copy.

1) Installed the ubuntu live CD onto a thumb drive
2) Booted my computer into that
3) Connected the CIC HDD via an IDE to usb connector (cheap on amazon)
4) ran a DD command dd if=/dev/sdc of=idrive-backup.img bs=64k status=progress
5) Then used this image to restore it to the new drive with command dd if=idrive-backup.img of=/dev/sdc

/dev/sdc will change from system to system, the idiots way to get this info is to plug in the drive and then run gparted from the command line. This will open up a graphical partition editor where there is a drop down menu showing all the connected drives and their drive letter, sdc in my case.

By very careful not to mix up the if (input) and of(output) command or you will copy data in the wrong direction and blank out your drive.

I did this primarily to back up the drive since it's 10 years old and a spinning disk in a moving car.

I may try to resize the partition sometime.
I was having fits getting Linux to install on my PCs, so I had time to mess with Windows cloning software...

Bottom line, Paragon Hard Disk Manager 17 Advanced was crap. Corrupted the image and left the Nav section greyed-out.

But, HDD Raw Copy Tool v1.1 (Free) worked like a champ! It was fast, simple and made a perfect copy of my CIC HDD in Win7 32-bit.

Here's the link: https://hddguru.com/software/HDD-Raw-Copy-Tool/

Cheers & good luck!
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