JB4 will have CPS offset (aka timing advance) support

tscdennab · 03-05-2011, 03:35 PM

They are testing it right now. For more information visit the BMS forums (I think I am not allowed to post links to that forum here, but you can easily find it if you know what CPS offsetting is

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Litos · 03-05-2011, 03:46 PM

will the user have to control it or will it be "tuned into" the JB4 !?!?

i heard across the board that it probably wouldn't benefit as much to most applications.

tscdennab · 03-05-2011, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Litos

will the user have to control it or will it be "tuned into" the JB4 !?!?

i heard across the board that it probably wouldn't benefit as much to most applications.

It will be user adjustable (0 to 100%) within some safe limits set by BMS (if you offset the CPS too much you can get misfires, etc. due to the fact that the crankshaft also drives the injector timing, camshaft timing, etc.)

Proper Motion LLC · 03-05-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tscdennab

It will be user adjustable (0 to 100%) within some safe limits set by BMS (if you offset the CPS too much you can get misfires, etc. due to the fact that the crankshaft also drives the injector timing, camshaft timing, etc.)

The injector timing being offset is whats causing Procede misfires, but I don't see a 2000 page thread about it

onesuperboi · 03-05-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rysandro

The injector timing being offset is whats causing Procede misfires, but I don't see a 2000 page thread about it

And there should be a thread on it...

soulja620 · 03-05-2011, 05:41 PM

Already see where this is going

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 03-05-2011, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by onesuperboi

And there are several threads on it...

Fixed

onesuperboi · 03-05-2011, 10:23 PM

The largest thread I've seen on the topic of misfires was on b.boost.

BrianMN · 03-05-2011, 11:28 PM

The million dollar question is WHY? Why is it being offered now, and not 3 years ago?

Clap135 · 03-05-2011, 11:29 PM

Because as people read that huge thread, most began to understand how the ecu works. Another reason is that there were many cars "autotuning" them selves to shit boost levels, but thats just a guess.

BrianMN · 03-05-2011, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

Because as people read that huge thread, most began to understand how the ecu works. Another reason is that there were many cars "autotuning" them selves to shit boost levels, but thats just a guess.

Makes sense. Probably wouldn't be able to get Autotuning to work if they were constantly seeing knock as it tries to hit stock ignition...

Even if their 'final version' of Autotuning isn't as conservative...it will still be hitting stupid low boost without proactive timing retard...and that is simple engine operation 101.

mtlr · 03-06-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianMN

The million dollar question is WHY? Why is it being offered now, and not 3 years ago?

Someone figured out how to use the input capture and output compare functions.

rgpwr · 03-06-2011, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

Another reason is that there were many cars "autotuning" them selves to shit boost levels

<---- *sigh*

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 03-06-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianMN

The million dollar question is WHY? Why is it being offered now, and not 3 years ago?

Just another way to market your product and get more money.
More products, more innovation, more marketing, more drama, more talking.... more $$$

Quote:

Originally Posted by onesuperboi

The largest thread I've seen on the topic of misfires was on b.boost.

LOl...

Forcefed3 · 03-06-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rgpwr

<---- *sigh*

Are you saying they were autotuning to high boost levels?

ttbmer · 03-06-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rysandro

Quote:

Originally Posted by tscdennab

It will be user adjustable (0 to 100%) within some safe limits set by BMS (if you offset the CPS too much you can get misfires, etc. due to the fact that the crankshaft also drives the injector timing, camshaft timing, etc.)

The injector timing being offset is whats causing Procede misfires, but I don't see a 2000 page thread about it

Nervous now!! Abt to install my new proceed with V5 1-21 maps upgrade. Hope my car don't get any issues!

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 03-06-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Are you saying they were autotuning to high boost levels?

I think hes saying he had the same problems. I know I would be sighing if I did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ttbmer

Nervous now!! Abt to install my new proceed with V5 1-21 maps upgrade. Hope my car don't get any issues!

MT or AT?

The amount of actual issues is a fraction of a percent. You only hear about it cause nobody has anything to talk about, so the only people saying something are people with a problem. which you could count probably on one hand if not 2.

ttbmer · 03-06-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JPSlick

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Are you saying they were autotuning to high boost levels?

I think hes saying he had the same problems. I know I would be sighing if I did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ttbmer

Nervous now!! Abt to install my new proceed with V5 1-21 maps upgrade. Hope my car don't get any issues!

MT or AT?

The amount of actual issues is a fraction of a percent. You only hear about it cause nobody has anything to talk about, so the only people saying something are people with a problem. which you could count probably on one hand if not 2.

Ph good. MT

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