[imperium2000]

What is the big differences between some of Autel's OBD-II code readers Vs. Burger Motorsport's Bavarian Technic reader at looking up or deleting Tuning codes? The near 8times price difference seems pretty large.

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&sear...dtextbin=Autel
http://www.burgertuning.com/scanner.html

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by imperium2000

What is the big differences between some of Autel's OBD-II code readers Vs. Burger Motorsport's Bavarian Technic reader at looking up or deleting Tuning codes? The near 8times price difference seems pretty large.

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&sear...dtextbin=Autel
http://www.burgertuning.com/scanner.html

The Bavarian Technic is not a code reader. It is will read and clear normal OBDII codes and the hidden/shadow or tuner manipulation codes. It takes off from there because it is also a data logging system so you can monitor everything the car monitors. It is an enormous advancement for the platform.

[scottp999]

What he said!

[undecided]

http://www.amazon.com/Crescent-OBD2-...8&s=automotive

Which sounds like it does the same as the Bav Auto Tool.

[thegeneral101]

^^^ not sure if that one will read extended BMW codes though. i would play it safe with the bav tech

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by undecided

http://www.amazon.com/Crescent-OBD2-...8&s=automotive

Which sounds like it does the same as the Bav Auto Tool.

Does it even do BMW cars?

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by imperium2000

What is the big differences between some of Autel's OBD-II code readers Vs. Burger Motorsport's Bavarian Technic reader at looking up or deleting Tuning codes? The near 8times price difference seems pretty large.

http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&sear...dtextbin=Autel
http://www.burgertuning.com/scanner.html

just as a clarification, Burger is not the developer/producer, just a reseller.

I'm looking into buying a Bav Tech myself for my e36 but am waiting to verify full functionality w/ the e36.

I would love to log timing charts while tuning my boost controller.

[Sparky66]

Let's be clear....... Burger Motorsport does not own or make the Bavarian Technic reader. They just sell it.

Edit: Sniz, you beat me to it.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by Sniz

just as a clarification, Burger is not the developer/producer, just a reseller.

I'm looking into buying a Bav Tech myself for my e36 but am waiting to verify full functionality w/ the e36.

I would love to log timing charts while tuning my boost controller.

Sniz, it is awesome looking at timing charts with boost charts. You really have some good data to judge knock events.

[RambleJ]

Wow! If this worked for BMW's its a great find! I guess the main difference would be if it could see and clead the shadow fault codes.

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by Sniz

just as a clarification, Burger is not the developer/producer, just a reseller.

I'm looking into buying a Bav Tech myself for my e36 but am waiting to verify full functionality w/ the e36.

I would love to log timing charts while tuning my boost controller.

Do you have the round odbII vs. the newest rectangle plug? I would let you use up one of my vin slots to test the functionality out, but I don't have the round adapter if you need it.

[OpenFlash]

I'm pretty sure that code reading is just a generic OBD reader. I wouldn't expect it to read/clear all BMW specific extended codes. But it's cheap enough for someone to try it and let the rest of us know

Shiv

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by Sparky66

Let's be clear....... Burger Motorsport does not own or make the Bavarian Technic reader. They just sell it.

Edit: Sniz, you beat me to it.

i'm quick like ninja

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Sniz, it is awesome looking at timing charts with boost charts. You really have some good data to judge knock events.

i'm sure it is, but in my case I dont see how it would log boost? on my '99 the ECU has no idea what boost is...at all. You cant hook up a boost line t'd off the intake mani or something can you?

Originally Posted by scottp999

Do you have the round odbII vs. the newest rectangle plug? I would let you use up one of my vin slots to test the functionality out, but I don't have the round adapter if you need it.

I have both types on my car, round one in the engine bay and the rectangle one in the footwell....did u get yours yet?

Adam is thinking of picking up the professional version and recouping cost off all the BMW freaks around here. I think its a good idea.

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'm pretty sure that code reading is just a generic OBD reader. I wouldn't expect it to read/clear all BMW specific extended codes. But it's cheap enough for someone to try it and let the rest of us know

Shiv

oh oh

me me

I'll do it

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Sniz, good point on your E36. I don't think the Bavtech will log external sensors.

[thegeneral101]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Sniz, good point on your E36. I don't think the Bavtech will log external sensors.

don't think it will either and probably no way around that

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

Sniz, good point on your E36. I don't think the Bavtech will log external sensors.

need standalone for that type of logging I think...I really want to keep the stock ECU in control of things for better driveability

Originally Posted by thegeneral101

don't think it will either and probably no way around that

yup...but I at least want to log other parameters. I can watch boost on my gauge and know well enough whats going on. Boost is more of a plateau on this thing, not a curve anyway!

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by Sniz

I have both types on my car, round one in the engine bay and the rectangle one in the footwell....did u get yours yet?

Adam is thinking of picking up the professional version and recouping cost off all the BMW freaks around here. I think its a good idea.

I've had the enthusiast version for a couple of months. Let me know if you want to try it out.

[dmurray14]

OBD codes are about 10% of what the car can actually tell you. So in other words, it doesn't compare.

[RambleJ]

^^^^

Originally Posted by undecided

http://www.amazon.com/Crescent-OBD2-...8&s=automotive

Which sounds like it does the same as the Bav Auto Tool.

This is the one that looks more comparable to the BavTech tool..

The one in the OP's first post are the standard readers which are not comparable to the BT tool.. But this one looks very comparable, it really depends on whats on the program they give you to install.

[Pseudo Nim]

Would be interesting to hear if the Amazon one compares. Regardless of what the BT tool does ...... $300 US shipped is not cheap

[imperium2000]

Originally Posted by RambleJ

^^^^



This is the one that looks more comparable to the BavTech tool..

The one in the OP's first post are the standard readers which are not comparable to the BT tool.. But this one looks very comparable, it really depends on whats on the program they give you to install.

So...anyone willing to sacrifice $50 for the plug and review it for us?

[Pseudo Nim]

Doesn't Amazon have a great return policy? You should be able to return it and say it didn't fit your car or something, and you won't even sacrifice anything except some time.