Clutchmasters FX100 Slipping

BrianMN · 03-05-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 335iLI

Thanks matt. If I have more issues ill stop by. I guess I get what I deserve lol yes I know you told me so

Huh?

335iLI · 03-05-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Clap135

dzeno

Dzenos slipped bc they didn't change the pilot bearing correct

335iLI · 03-05-2011, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianMN

Huh?

Long story lol

BrianMN · 03-05-2011, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 335iLI

Dzenos slipped bc they didn't change the pilot bearing correct

That's what they say---I personally don't buy it..

335iLI · 03-06-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianMN

That's what they say---I personally don't buy it..

That's why I changed the pilot bearing. I literally changed everything. CM customer service is the pits

Former_Boosted_IS · 03-07-2011, 06:47 AM

I am not sure how this has turned into a bash fest of CM? If there is a problem, then must have your clutch back to see if there is a problem. This is common practice. It sounds like you didn't clean your flywheel plate thoroughly before install from your prior posts. It also sounds like you did not break in the clutch correctly. You take risks of glazing the flywheel by doing this and that is not CM's fault. I am not sure what CM has done wrong here?

tscdennab · 03-07-2011, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

I am not sure how this has turned into a bash fest of CM? If there is a problem, then must have your clutch back to see if there is a problem. This is common practice.

Moral of the story: Don't buy ClutchMasters if you don't want to risk sending the clutch back for inspection ?

Former_Boosted_IS · 03-07-2011, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tscdennab

Moral of the story: Don't buy ClutchMasters if you don't want to risk sending the clutch back for inspection ?

That is the case with every clutch company. Clutch Master's has one of the best reputations of any clutch company in the world. Check out their reviews on other forums. I have one and have had no issues whatsoever.

Mr. 5 · 03-07-2011, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

That is the case with every clutch company. Clutch Master's has one of the best reputations of any clutch company in the world. Check out their reviews on other forums. I have one and have had no issues whatsoever.

Do you ever drive your car though?
I honestly ask this question because I really don't know.

Former_Boosted_IS · 03-07-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Do you ever drive your car though?
I honestly ask this question because I really don't know.

I do, but not in the winter very much. Pot holes and nice wheels don't go well together.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-07-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by themyst

I had 420+whp and god knows how much torque, and the stock clutch held it all just fine up to 28k miles before I traded it in.

I am on the stock original clutch and have been tuned for the last 50K miles and my car has taken a lot of abuse!

Mike

Mr. 5 · 03-07-2011, 09:23 AM

Sorry guys but off topic...

To those that changed to a SMF,
Does anyone want to sell their stock flywheel DMF?

dzenno · 03-07-2011, 09:27 AM

My ACT organic held 490wtq a few days ago, multiple pulls, almost back to back...I had about 445wtq on pump+meth with stock turbos at 18.5psi and my stock clutch didn't like it while my CM FX400 was diagnosed with flywheel damage and replaced under warranty...2 causes given were: 1) bad pilot bearing 2) too soft of a flywheel material where the flywheel goes on the crankshaft...to this day I don't know what exactly caused it but my money is on the pilot bearing...i have 9000km on the ACT street clutch now with the OEM resurfaced flywheel and no issues at all

itsbrokeagain · 03-07-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dzenno

My ACT organic held 490wtq a few days ago, multiple pulls, almost back to back...I had about 445wtq on pump+meth with stock turbos at 18.5psi and my stock clutch didn't like it while my CM FX400 was diagnosed with flywheel damage and replaced under warranty...2 causes given were: 1) bad pilot bearing 2) too soft of a flywheel material where the flywheel goes on the crankshaft...to this day I don't know what exactly caused it but my money is on the pilot bearing...i have 9000km on the ACT street clutch now with the OEM resurfaced flywheel and no issues at all

the only purpose of the pilot bearing is to hold the front of the input shaft steady inside the flywheel. Unless you had a freak failure or it was not put in, then there is usually no way for it to go bad.

You can usually tell when they have gone bad, I have rarely ever replaced one as they are always clean and do not make any noise when spun nor have any play in it.

I would bet on something with the clutch material or not breaking it in right.

Mr. 5 · 03-07-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe

the only purpose of the pilot bearing is to hold the front of the input shaft steady inside the flywheel. Unless you had a freak failure or it was not put in, then there is usually no way for it to go bad.

You can usually tell when they have gone bad, I have rarely ever replaced one as they are always clean and do not make any noise when spun nor have any play in it.

I would bet on something with the clutch material or not breaking it in right.

I agree. My BMW tech has done all of my clutch installs and he has never done the pilot bearing because he said that they VERY rarely go out.
The thing that goes out a lot with these cars is the throw out bearing. This thing is a piece of crap and should be replaced every chance you get.

I'm dropping my trans (myself this time) this Thursday to fix a trans leak and I will be replacing the throw out bearing.

335iLI · 03-07-2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

I am not sure how this has turned into a bash fest of CM? If there is a problem, then must have your clutch back to see if there is a problem. This is common practice. It sounds like you didn't clean your flywheel plate thoroughly before install from your prior posts. It also sounds like you did not break in the clutch correctly. You take risks of glazing the flywheel by doing this and that is not CM's fault. I am not sure what CM has done wrong here?

My shop said they cleaned the fly wheel I called them up. Also I broke my clutch in correctly it slipped in the beginning but it was under such light load and once it slipped I made sure I was even more careful. I currently am taking matts advice and not going hard on it for 500 more miles. I can't send my clutch in I need it to drive. That's why I asked for them to send me another one.

Former_Boosted_IS · 03-07-2011, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. 5

Sorry guys but off topic...

To those that changed to a SMF,
Does anyone want to sell their stock flywheel DMF?

I will sell mine if you want Mr.5.

BrianMN · 03-07-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

I am not sure how this has turned into a bash fest of CM? If there is a problem, then must have your clutch back to see if there is a problem. This is common practice. It sounds like you didn't clean your flywheel plate thoroughly before install from your prior posts. It also sounds like you did not break in the clutch correctly. You take risks of glazing the flywheel by doing this and that is not CM's fault. I am not sure what CM has done wrong here?

I think it's pretty obvious what is going on... and it hasn't really turned into a CM bashfest? The OP gave heavy throttle and slipped the new clutch within the first few miles. Simple. I'd hope people are smart enough to know it's not CM's fault.

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Originally Posted by tscdennab

Moral of the story: Don't buy ClutchMasters if you don't want to risk sending the clutch back for inspection ?

Nobody listen to the klown.

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Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe

the only purpose of the pilot bearing is to hold the front of the input shaft steady inside the flywheel. Unless you had a freak failure or it was not put in, then there is usually no way for it to go bad.

You can usually tell when they have gone bad, I have rarely ever replaced one as they are always clean and do not make any noise when spun nor have any play in it.

I would bet on something with the clutch material or not breaking it in right.

I fully agree regarding the pilot bearing. The only way I can see is if somehow the shaft didn't line up perfectly and the tranny didn't fit all the way back on, and the manic mechanic tightened the tranny on by simply cranking the bolts...thus breaking apart or crushing the rollers inside the bearing. Totally conceiveable, but highly unlikely.

Again, it's obvious what happened here. The OP needs to get rid of that glazin and get to blazin.

335iLI · 03-07-2011, 12:18 PM

I don't want this to turn into a bash fest. I love the lwfly and it is prob glazed. The post was just to get an idea of what's going on. Anyone post any links of how to get rid of the glaze. I read a bunch of different articles im not sure which way to go.

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335iLI Captain 34 Rep 634 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: NY-LI iTrader: (5)	I don't want this to turn into a bash fest. I love the lwfly and it is prob glazed. The post was just to get an idea of what's going on. Anyone post any links of how to get rid of the glaze. I read a bunch of different articles im not sure which way to go.
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