Help with 18 staggered set up!!!

s420merc · 04-18-2007, 07:44 PM

i am about to order a 335i E92 Coupe in Silver Mettalic with the Red Leather and Sports Pkg and Premium Pkg and Steptronic.
The stock tires are 225/40x18 right and 255/35x18 in back what is the size of the stock rims and the offsets front and rear.
I am looking for a set of staggered rims to run the stock tire sizes i dont want to pay too much and looking for CSL repro or something nice with a lip.
I was thinking the ASA AR2 staggered set up that Tirerack caries but alot of people say u need spacers with them.
I want to keep the OEM tire size and just change the look of the wheels without runing spacers. Any ideas of rims would be apreciated.

speedytobey · 04-19-2007, 12:26 PM

thats what i wanted to do too, anyone with any info? i like the CSL look.

JOSG328I · 04-19-2007, 12:32 PM

Beyern Mesh 18x8.5 & 18x9.5 are nice with a decent lip and pricing. Also the offset is 30mm so no need for spacers.

s420merc · 04-19-2007, 06:06 PM

where can i order the rims and look at the style

DrGP · 04-19-2007, 08:00 PM

Modbaragins and JleviSW both sell staggered CSL reps in 18" . WITH THE PROPER OFFSETS!!! Not expensive. Why would you look anywhere else or want something LIKE a CSL rep. Get the reps in the right offsets and you will be happy. I believe both companies are forum sponsors and have a great reputation on this forum. I'm getting mine in fall. Maybe the new Velocity 8 spoke, maybe the CSLs. You might want to check out the new VM wheels. They look like CSLs with a lip!

Fraggy · 04-19-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JOSG328I

Beyern Mesh 18x8.5 & 18x9.5 are nice with a decent lip and pricing. Also the offset is 30mm so no need for spacers.

Its a great combo, its what I have. And I was torn between these and CSLs, but Im glad I got these.

a l l a n · 04-19-2007, 10:46 PM

I'm also (and still) torn between CSL reps and Beyern Mesh 18 8.5/9.5. I used to consider ASA AR1 as well prior to Beyern Mesh.

Fraggy, would 225 (F) and 255 (R) tire size work with Beyern Mesh. I believe you had rubbing issues initially? I believe there was another owner who had issues with Beyern (or should I say the tires). How's the weight? Is it affecting performance in any way? Thanks.

ChadE · 04-19-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by a l l a n

I'm also (and still) torn between CSL reps and Beyern Mesh 18 8.5/9.5. I used to consider ASA AR1 as well prior to Beyern Mesh.

Fraggy, would 225 (F) and 255 (R) tire size work with Beyern Mesh. I believe you had rubbing issues initially? I believe there was another owner who had issues with Beyern (or should I say the tires). How's the weight? Is it affecting performance in any way? Thanks.

I say go CSL reps! Had them on my E46 and loved them

s420merc · 04-20-2007, 12:42 AM

Yeah i love the Beyern with the lip but seems that that offset will bring the lip 20mm out from stock is there enough clearance without rolling the fender.
from using the forum calculator it shows that if i run a 30et i will loose 6mm on strut side and wheel will protrude 20mm on fender side. Is this too far out.
I can also order the rears in a 18x9.5 with an et45 but this will bring the wheel 21mm closer to the strut do i have clearance in the back but with this offset it will only stick out 5mm in front

Fraggy · 04-20-2007, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by a l l a n

I'm also (and still) torn between CSL reps and Beyern Mesh 18 8.5/9.5. I used to consider ASA AR1 as well prior to Beyern Mesh.

Fraggy, would 225 (F) and 255 (R) tire size work with Beyern Mesh. I believe you had rubbing issues initially? I believe there was another owner who had issues with Beyern (or should I say the tires). How's the weight? Is it affecting performance in any way? Thanks.

Im sure it would work well. I have 265 in the back, and in a brand that most say is "wider" than most, Kuhmo. Most said that a different tire brand would have negated the need to roll fenders.

Performance is awesome. The weight has NOT shown itself to be an issue. Most likely because the OEM wheels are NOT light either. The ride is magnificent. With MORE PSI and a stiffer suspension set up (H&R and Koni) the ride is SIGNIFICANTLY better than stock!!

a l l a n · 04-20-2007, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fraggy

Im sure it would work well. I have 265 in the back, and in a brand that most say is "wider" than most, Kuhmo. Most said that a different tire brand would have negated the need to roll fenders.

Performance is awesome. The weight has NOT shown itself to be an issue. Most likely because the OEM wheels are NOT light either. The ride is magnificent. With MORE PSI and a stiffer suspension set up (H&R and Koni) the ride is SIGNIFICANTLY better than stock!!

good to hear. thanks.

fueledbymetal · 04-20-2007, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DrGP

Modbaragins and JleviSW both sell staggered CSL reps in 18" . WITH THE PROPER OFFSETS!!!

I thought thye only had the correct (30mm) offset for 9.5" wide in the 19" size?

DrGP · 04-20-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by fueledbymetal

I thought thye only had the correct (30mm) offset for 9.5" wide in the 19" size?

30 ET offset also available in 18" as well

ATG · 04-20-2007, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fraggy

Its a great combo, its what I have. And I was torn between these and CSLs, but Im glad I got these.

Is this what you have?

http://www.buywheelstoday.com/produc...lt.asp?id=2652

Front 8.5 and rear 9.5?

a l l a n · 04-20-2007, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrGP

30 ET offset also available in 18" as well

I don't think this is correct for 18" CSL reps.

SV Concepts III · 04-20-2007, 01:42 PM

There are a few cool mesh designs out there in the price range of the CSLs with a lip. I would check out the BRS Style, the new Velocity Motoring V715, LM style and CF1 style cast wheel. They all feature the same basic CSL design but have a nice lip if you are going for that look.

ZBMW · 04-20-2007, 04:36 PM

I'm looking to eliminate the stagger, as it just puts in more understeer.
The problem I'm having though is getting the right offset. BMW Sport Pkg. has 35 mm front and 37 rear. Most wheels seem to be 40 which would probably work ok but I don't know what effect it would have on the susp. geometry. Also, the rear tires are rated for a pretty high dynamic load and most non RF's don't measure up. We do want to get rid of the runflats, right?
Tire Rack has been working with me but we keep running into obstacles like these and I've been digging around here to see if anyone has solved the problem without making amess of the, admittedly, runflat tuned suspension.

SV Concepts III · 04-20-2007, 04:52 PM

You can always run 40 offset wheels with 5-10mm spacers to push the wheels out to the fenders.

fueledbymetal · 04-20-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DrGP

30 ET offset also available in 18" as well

Can you show me a link? I didn't see any at jlevi or mod bargains...

04-18-2007, 07:44 PM	#1
s420merc Private First Class 7 Rep 118 Posts Drives: 300c SRT8 , ML350 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Staten Island NY and Milford PA iTrader: (0)	Help with 18 staggered set up!!! i am about to order a 335i E92 Coupe in Silver Mettalic with the Red Leather and Sports Pkg and Premium Pkg and Steptronic. The stock tires are 225/40x18 right and 255/35x18 in back what is the size of the stock rims and the offsets front and rear. I am looking for a set of staggered rims to run the stock tire sizes i dont want to pay too much and looking for CSL repro or something nice with a lip. I was thinking the ASA AR2 staggered set up that Tirerack caries but alot of people say u need spacers with them. I want to keep the OEM tire size and just change the look of the wheels without runing spacers. Any ideas of rims would be apreciated.
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speedytobey Second Lieutenant 11 Rep 204 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SoCal. iTrader: (0)	thats what i wanted to do too, anyone with any info? i like the CSL look.
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JOSG328I First Lieutenant 18 Rep 377 Posts Drives: 2007 328I Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Huntington Beach iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 328I [0.00]	Beyern Mesh 18x8.5 & 18x9.5 are nice with a decent lip and pricing. Also the offset is 30mm so no need for spacers.
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s420merc Private First Class 7 Rep 118 Posts Drives: 300c SRT8 , ML350 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Staten Island NY and Milford PA iTrader: (0)	where can i order the rims and look at the style
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04-19-2007, 08:00 PM	#5
DrGP Lieutenant Colonel 137 Rep 1,914 Posts Drives: Sapphire 335i coupe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: SE, PA iTrader: (0)	IF you like CSLs why not just get them? Modbaragins and JleviSW both sell staggered CSL reps in 18" . WITH THE PROPER OFFSETS!!! Not expensive. Why would you look anywhere else or want something LIKE a CSL rep. Get the reps in the right offsets and you will be happy. I believe both companies are forum sponsors and have a great reputation on this forum. I'm getting mine in fall. Maybe the new Velocity 8 spoke, maybe the CSLs. You might want to check out the new VM wheels. They look like CSLs with a lip!
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a l l a n Captain 72 Rep 929 Posts Drives: E90 2007 328xi Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: LIC NY / Central NJ iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 E90 328xi [0.00]	I'm also (and still) torn between CSL reps and Beyern Mesh 18 8.5/9.5. I used to consider ASA AR1 as well prior to Beyern Mesh. Fraggy, would 225 (F) and 255 (R) tire size work with Beyern Mesh. I believe you had rubbing issues initially? I believe there was another owner who had issues with Beyern (or should I say the tires). How's the weight? Is it affecting performance in any way? Thanks. __________________ E90 2007 / Step / Montego Blue / Black Dakota Leather / Premium / Cold Weather MODS: Exterior: Blacklines, debadged, HO ceramic 35% tint, Hoen yellow fogs, matte black grille, OEM style splitters, Halogen-to-Xenon Interior: Alum pedals, CF wrapped trim, V1 and Nuvi hardwire, M-Tech tri-stitched wheel, SMG M5 shift knob Performance: AluFelgen CSL 19" 8.5 ET33/9.5 ET30 with 5mm rear spacers \| GY Eagle F1 Asym 235/265, KW V3, BMW Perf exhaust+intake
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s420merc Private First Class 7 Rep 118 Posts Drives: 300c SRT8 , ML350 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Staten Island NY and Milford PA iTrader: (0)	Yeah i love the Beyern with the lip but seems that that offset will bring the lip 20mm out from stock is there enough clearance without rolling the fender. from using the forum calculator it shows that if i run a 30et i will loose 6mm on strut side and wheel will protrude 20mm on fender side. Is this too far out. I can also order the rears in a 18x9.5 with an et45 but this will bring the wheel 21mm closer to the strut do i have clearance in the back but with this offset it will only stick out 5mm in front
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SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	There are a few cool mesh designs out there in the price range of the CSLs with a lip. I would check out the BRS Style, the new Velocity Motoring V715, LM style and CF1 style cast wheel. They all feature the same basic CSL design but have a nice lip if you are going for that look.
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ZBMW Black Forest Bimmerphile 2 Rep 137 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colorado iTrader: (1)	I'm looking to eliminate the stagger, as it just puts in more understeer. The problem I'm having though is getting the right offset. BMW Sport Pkg. has 35 mm front and 37 rear. Most wheels seem to be 40 which would probably work ok but I don't know what effect it would have on the susp. geometry. Also, the rear tires are rated for a pretty high dynamic load and most non RF's don't measure up. We do want to get rid of the runflats, right? Tire Rack has been working with me but we keep running into obstacles like these and I've been digging around here to see if anyone has solved the problem without making amess of the, admittedly, runflat tuned suspension.
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04-20-2007, 04:52 PM	#18
SV Concepts III Lieutenant General 375 Rep 17,017 Posts Drives: BMW Duh Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Santa Clara iTrader: (13)	You can always run 40 offset wheels with 5-10mm spacers to push the wheels out to the fenders.
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