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      05-31-2022, 11:25 PM   #6381
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Q: what do you all think is the mid-term value of lower mileage, automatic transmission e91 m-sports? $15k? Given the N52 and hydraulic steering, Iím curious if the M-sports are able to hold a $15k price for awhile. Or maybe $12k? $18k? $20k seems like it bumps into the f31 territory, even though the cars are very different.
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Q: what do you all think is the mid-term value of lower mileage, automatic transmission e91 m-sports? $15k? Given the N52 and hydraulic steering, I’m curious if the M-sports are able to hold a $15k price for awhile. Or maybe $12k? $18k? $20k seems like it bumps into the f31 territory, even though the cars are very different.
Not an easy question. BMW wagons in general, especially well maintained ones should hold their value fairly well. You've seen prices go up over the last 2 years because of Covid, inflation and supply chain issues but it's not clear how long that is sustainable.

Could a recession force people to stop paying $30k for 10 year old cars? Probably- but again supply is so limited folks with money will probably still pay premiums for good condition and good spec cars. If you have a very basic spec then it will probably depend more on mileage and condition.

Realistically I don't expect you to lose a ton of value. I don't see these prices dropping back below $10k any time soon for decent examples even with high miles.
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      06-01-2022, 08:44 AM   #6383
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Not an easy question. BMW wagons in general, especially well maintained ones should hold their value fairly well. You've seen prices go up over the last 2 years because of Covid, inflation and supply chain issues but it's not clear how long that is sustainable.

Could a recession force people to stop paying $30k for 10 year old cars? Probably- but again supply is so limited folks with money will probably still pay premiums for good condition and good spec cars. If you have a very basic spec then it will probably depend more on mileage and condition.

Realistically I don't expect you to lose a ton of value. I don't see these prices dropping back below $10k any time soon for decent examples even with high miles.
Thanks - I agree with your thoughts. It's been such an interesting car market, due to everything you've said, along with certain car characteristics disappearing (I6, hydraulic steering, and to a lesser extent wagons and even internal combustion engines...). I think the spec is key. BIGGNS e91 checked all of the boxes that an automatic could have (MPE, low mileage, HK, xenon, etc) and reached $22,750 on BaT.
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      06-01-2022, 02:44 PM   #6384
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Yes, terrible pictures and description, but I've known the broker for 20 years. He will sell this car and weed out the tirekickers.
Apologies if my post came across as negative. Was not trying to bash at all. Trying to state everything in the listing plus what I had noticed from a quick look. To me your car seems like a nice example if you're looking for an automatic xDrive M Sport. Thank you for providing a lot more info.
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Unicorn Alert! Low miles, late build, M Sport with nearly every option

2012 328xi | 52,650 miles | AWD | 6MT | $40,999 | WBAUU3C56CA951250

http://www.blueandwhitemotors.com/ve...eboro-ma-02703
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      06-01-2022, 03:19 PM   #6386
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Unicorn Alert! Low miles, late build, M Sport with nearly every option

2012 328xi | 52,650 miles | AWD | 6MT | $40,999 | WBAUU3C56CA951250

http://www.blueandwhitemotors.com/ve...eboro-ma-02703
Now it's official, we have reached the level of Bat-Shit Crazy.
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      06-01-2022, 07:19 PM   #6387
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Unicorn Alert! Low miles, late build, M Sport with nearly every option

2012 328xi | 52,650 miles | AWD | 6MT | $40,999 | WBAUU3C56CA951250

http://www.blueandwhitemotors.com/ve...eboro-ma-02703
Now it's official, we have reached the level of Bat-Shit Crazy.
Holy crap this place is 15 minutes from me. Anyone want me to take a look??? I'm not in at that price, I got my own unicorn!
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      06-01-2022, 08:28 PM   #6388
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Unicorn Alert! Low miles, late build, M Sport with nearly every option

2012 328xi | 52,650 miles | AWD | 6MT | $40,999 | WBAUU3C56CA951250

http://www.blueandwhitemotors.com/ve...eboro-ma-02703
Fuck sake at that price buy an M3 and have some money for a SUV too while your at it.
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      06-01-2022, 09:05 PM   #6389
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For 40k I'd at least expect better pictures!
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      06-01-2022, 09:16 PM   #6390
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For 40k I'd at least expect better pictures!
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Apologies if my post came across as negative. Was not trying to bash at all. Trying to state everything in the listing plus what I had noticed from a quick look. To me your car seems like a nice example if you're looking for an automatic xDrive M Sport. Thank you for providing a lot more info.
Not at all, I appreciate the link. I'll be sorry to see the car go, but it's time.
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      06-03-2022, 08:25 AM   #6392
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Now it's official, we have reached the level of Bat-Shit Crazy.
I mean...other than a 2019 Alltrack (booooring), name another used 6MT wagon still available in NA for purchase at this time (excluding a plastic subaru) that's still engaging to drive. Low mileage m sport examples being sold will only continue to balloon in price as the enthusiasts hold on to these prime examples.

Prices are nuts - and will only continue. I say if this dealer can sell at that price, get it. I'm sure they'd be happy with 37-38 after sitting on it a month. If it is rust free and well maintained, the N52 provide an owner with another few decades of fun daily driving. My buddy has a sprint booster on his RWD 6MT e91 and the thing is a blast to daily!
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      06-03-2022, 09:38 AM   #6393
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The $40k car is for sale by blue and white motors. I've seen a number of those listings pop up over the last few years. Typically seem to be priced high for the market....

Here's a manual trans LCI, RWD available in Oregon with lower miles for $19k. Looks like a stripper model though.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/331705260
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      06-03-2022, 03:00 PM   #6394
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Sharp looking E91 right there.
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Ooooo. Looks clean.
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Selling my 2011 Manual 328xiT Wagon.
59725 miles
Tasman Green over Saddle Brown. 1/19 in this specific color combination.
$24500

VIN: WBAUU3C50BA950948

Notable Options/Features: Premium Package, Bluetooth Audio, Harmon Kardon Audio, Panoramic Sunroof, Nav, Saddle Brown Dakota Leather Interior
Very nice. I have the same color combo but in rwd. Pretty sure your car does not have H/K audio though? Gorgeous either way.
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Very nice. I have the same color combo but in rwd. Pretty sure your car does not have H/K audio though? Gorgeous either way.
Nice! And Yes you're right. It has the "Hifi" sound system. Not Harmon Kardon. Updated the post.
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Selling my 2011 Manual 328xiT Wagon.
59725 miles
Tasman Green over Saddle Brown. 1/19 in this specific color combination.
$24500

Link to photos https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...KB?usp=sharing

Link to Facebook Marketplace Listing https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...8775915857423/

The condition speaks for itself through the photos. I've cared for it meticulously throughout my ownership and so have the previous owners.

The car is set and ready to go for the next owner. I drove it up from Houston-Atlanta-Detroit two months ago. I changed most fluids (Oil, 2 diffs, transfer case, MTF, Coolant, Brake fluid) and replaced brake pads/rotors all around. Detailed service records included in photos in Google Drive link.

I'm located in Southfield, MI. Please let me know if you have any questions.

VIN: WBAUU3C50BA950948

Notable Options/Features: Premium Package, Bluetooth Audio, HiFi Audio, Panoramic Sunroof, Nav, Saddle Brown Dakota Leather Interior

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Underbody Walkaround:
Fantastic... I long for cars with proper maintenance history... I use spreadsheets as well!!!!
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Cheap black cargo cover if anyone is looking for one. Located in Alexandria, VA. Not mine. Just passing it along.

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/...492153660.html
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2009 328i | 99,600 miles | RWD | AT | $7,300

WBAUT93549A191088

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WBAUT93549A191088

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Wow, that looks like a catch. Either there's something wrong with it or he doesn't know what he has.
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Wow, that looks like a catch. Either there's something wrong with it or he doesn't know what he has.
Front bumperís toast, pretty good scrape on the hood, pax interior door handle cracked, has a bulb burned out somewhere, engine compartment is filthy. None of those are deal-breakers but to me reveal on overall lack of care; at that mileage Iím gonna go out on a limb and say lotís of deferred maintenance has piled up & needs doing. Could still be a good deal but if youíre gonna have a shop fix everything probably in reality a $12k+ car lol.
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