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      04-04-2018, 05:44 PM   #23
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yes...in that industry. Your ability to code, an industry certificate and your portfolio goes a long way. No way it applies universally to say accountancy, finance, designing a bridge, operating on your heart...
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From personal experience, the worst hires have had GPAs north of 3.9. The best hires have had GPAs between 3.1 - 3.4. I should note that I'm not in the medical profession.
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From personal experience, the worst hires have had GPAs north of 3.9. The best hires have had GPAs between 3.1 - 3.4. I should note that I'm not in the medical profession.
Animal husbandry isn't considered part of the medical field???
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yes...in that industry. Your ability to code, an industry certificate and your portfolio goes a long way. No way it applies universally to say accountancy, finance, designing a bridge, operating on your heart...
Yup, Im a dev who I converted my 4 year into an associates and left midway through my course because I got a dream job offer, but life obviously doesn't always work like that

I honestly have very little idea what my coworkers academic qualifications are because it doesn't matter, but it's cool to learn that, say, the quiet engineer did his masters on neural networks at Harvard
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Animal husbandry isn't considered part of the medical field???
Maybe, but I like to think of it as Tender for farm animals. So possibly the Tech industry?
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I should note that I'm not in the medical profession.
What do you call a guy who graduates from medical school dead last in his class?

Doctor.
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Wow, that's not racist at all to start ranting about affirmative action because a kid who's apparently really smart and hard working happens to be Black.
I had the same reaction.
The kid did the work necessary to get a 4.68 GPA, got into 20 colleges and yet his efforts are being derided. His success can't be due to the work he put in, it must be affirmative action. WTF more does the kid have to do to deserve to be admitted to these schools?
I'm sure some will say there was absolutely no prejudice in that post whatsoever.
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I’m not saying the kid did or didn’t deserve to get in
But 4.68 is not that impressive
I was lazy top 15% of my class and had a 4.39
Colleges looks for a lot more now
Extra curriculars, clubs, volunteering
Basically the kid had to kiss a whole lot of teachers asses and do irrelevant shit to get into those schools, haven’t looked at the story but a 4.68 by itself is not enough that being said

Affirmative action is bullshit and I’m hispanic. Things should be earned on merit not race or skin color, and yeah maybe sometimes the world is unfair but thats life. The left can’t accept that life is just unfair sometimes and will never be perfect, and the right can’t understand that life is unfair sometimes, and really ins’t always perfect/equal
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e92_bryan, read the story. The kid was more than a book worm.
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From personal experience, the worst hires have had GPAs north of 3.9. The best hires have had GPAs between 3.1 - 3.4. I should note that I'm not in the medical profession.
My mom worked in HR for 20+ years and she always said the best hires had GPAs 3.4-3.9. A person with a 4.0 and decent people skills is rare and always a flight risk.

When I was applying to colleges and scholarship programs GPA was just something they had to check off. All anyone really cared about was ACT/SAT scores. I spent quite a few sunday afternoons with a tutor trying to get 2 more points to get a scholarship to the school I really wanted to go to.
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First it is games schools are playing with the grades, how do you I know that, because some schools give AP classes a higher point value for each grade level and it not standard across the country. When I was in high school AP and regular class all had the same point value. At some point school started changing this. My kids high school gave 90% a 4 and 100% a 5 in a AP class, regular classes got 3.5 for 90% and 4 for 100%, so in my kids school if you did not take AP classes and were a start A student (90%) your GPA could be a 3.5. They did this to force more kids into AP classes which made the school look better to colleges.

Here is the best part of all this, we know a number kids who took all these AP classes had great GPA goes into their preferred University, and with in a year they were back home could not hack college and end up at the local community college. Most of these kids who have the brains to deal with all these college level course do not have the social and maturity to live in the real world.
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My mom worked in HR for 20+ years and she always said the best hires had GPAs 3.4-3.9. A person with a 4.0 and decent people skills is rare and always a flight risk.

When I was applying to colleges and scholarship programs GPA was just something they had to check off. All anyone really cared about was ACT/SAT scores. I spent quite a few sunday afternoons with a tutor trying to get 2 more points to get a scholarship to the school I really wanted to go to.
I use to hire people and I would never hire a 4.0 student, why they never made a mistake in the real world there are no books or teacher to tell you how to do things right. Too many time I have seen these 4.0 type fall apart when they make a real world mistake, they never had to learn from making a mistake. They do not know how to go into problem solving mode when the answer is not in a book or online somewhere.

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I always told myself that high school would never make or break me in terms of my life. Boy was I wrong.
How so? I didn't do anything in HS. I was quite the trouble maker as well. I would be surprised if I had much over a 3.0 when I graduated. Got into a college and graduated that without a ton of effort either. GPAs are a stupid metric.
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How so? I didn't do anything in HS. I was quite the trouble maker as well. I would be surprised if I had much over a 3.0 when I graduated. Got into a college and graduated that without a ton of effort either. GPAs are a stupid metric.
Since I didn't give a f, I didn't get into the college I was capable of. Missed out on the networking aspect of the big name colleges.
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Since I didn't give a f, I didn't get into the college I was capable of. Missed out on the networking aspect of the big name colleges.
That makes sense, and it is a much bigger deal for some industries (not as much my own).
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I agree. High school education with some college. I make more than a doctor. Education is training the brain to think. It does not indicate intelligence....although a well trained brain can lead to that. I refused to fill my head with required classes I was not interested in. I found out at an early age, if you're into it...you'll learn super quick. Can't fill a cup which is already full. So I filled my head with relevant stuff instead. lol

On a side note...my first employee had a masters in civil engineering.
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As a student graduating in less than two weeks now I can say that GPA does matter, to a point.

I was a 4.0 GPA student (No AP classes offered) in high school, 3.99 for my associates, and now a 3.85 for my BBA in Marketing. What matters more though, at least from what I have learned, is experience. The classroom is not the workplace and the skills I have learned through my internship have been more valuable than any class.
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As a student graduating in less than two weeks now I can say that GPA does matter, to a point.

I was a 4.0 GPA student (No AP classes offered) in high school, 3.99 for my associates, and now a 3.85 for my BBA in Marketing. What matters more though, at least from what I have learned, is experience. The classroom is not the workplace and the skills I have learned through my internship have been more valuable than any class.
As someone that graduated a long time ago, I can tell you that people graduating in less than 2 weeks have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when it comes to what matters in getting and keeping a good job.

Come back when you have some management experience and understand exactly what people look for when narrowing candidate resumes and interviewing.
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As someone that graduated a long time ago, I can tell you that people graduating in less than 2 weeks have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when it comes to what matters in getting and keeping a good job.

Come back when you have some management experience and understand exactly what people look for when narrowing candidate resumes and interviewing.
I was offering my opinion based on my personal experience. No need to talk down to someone offering their opinion.

I don't have any management experience, but all of my managers have told me over and over that experience outweighs any form of education. Your degree gets you in the door while your performance determines how long you stay.
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I always told myself that high school would never make or break me in terms of my life. Boy was I wrong.
It did? Didn't do shit in high school was so simple and got into my 1st and only choice no problem
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That kid also got 1560 on his SATs....that's combo is impressive. I think anyone would have got into all of those schools but not necessarily the full ride.
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That kid also got 1560 on his SATs....that's combo is impressive. I think anyone would have got into all of those schools but not necessarily the full ride.
High achieving affluent Asian Americans with his scores would most certainly not get into places like Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT with similar stats.
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