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07-18-2012, 08:17 AM | #67 |
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To be honest I'd be pushing back on Eibach and\or the supplier that they haven't lowered the car to the level that you were led to believe and try to get them to swap them for the sportsline kit instead, even if it was just to waive the fitting cost.
Your obviously not 100% satisfied with results and it's at times like this were I'd expect any supplier worth their salt to try help out the customer as much as possible. I was considering getting mine done at M-style too but I'm not sure I'll go there now on this result. |
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07-18-2012, 08:22 AM | #68 | |
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Read it and weep. Mine was the first tourer to be fitted with the birds kit and the first set of rear springs were made wrong by eibach and the car sat on its arse big time. It was actually 30mm lower which looked completely ridiculous, 5-10 drop is ample at the rear, but 5mm is hard to spot without measuring. The second set were spot on. At all stages Birds insisted that I took before and after measurements from wheel centre to arch lip (when parked on dead flat surface) for reference. Without those figures you've got idea where you are. Last edited by doughboy; 07-18-2012 at 08:27 AM.. |
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07-18-2012, 08:22 AM | #69 | |
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07-18-2012, 09:37 AM | #70 | |
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However,it's still possible that the car will settle some more,my H&R's (previous car) took a couple of weeks until they found their true level.
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07-18-2012, 10:04 AM | #71 | |
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I was at M-stlye a few weeks ago enquiring about exactly the same thing i.e. my specific requirements being that I want the car to be lower and was also recommend the Eibach Pro kit. If I'd had it done followin that advice and this was the result, I'd expect something to be done about it. Too many times we just take the hit in this country, if you read the Yank forum you'll see they expect and get much better customer service over there because they aren't prepared to accept anything less. |
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I did bring my car in infact to be told to expect something between 10-20mm drop on an M-sport. I know I should have checked with Eibach first... Quote:
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07-18-2012, 10:14 AM | #73 | |
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Very clever people sitting there. Although I ordered my sportline kit, but just for fun when I contacted these, no obvious answer. Here is what he said; 'We do not know that with M-sports suspension, how much is your car already lowered, so we cannot give you exact figures' I have asked if he can get my car details on computer and calculate. He clearly said that he does not have access to those details (car). I honestly think, their staff need proper technical training....disappointing if you can tell how much customer should expet the difference in drop.
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07-18-2012, 10:19 AM | #74 | |
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I've just popped out and measured my touring on SE suspension and although not on perfectly flat ground the front is showing 17.5cm average. I'd say my car looks the same as other SE suspensions I've noted. Before some of you guys laugh on the ride height... I've seen the lowered cars knocking their front bumpers on our local carpark kerbing... function over form for me. AND this. So if the OP has the correct ride height, the original springs appear to be running a lower height than factory specification I'd say. HighlandPete |
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07-18-2012, 10:27 AM | #75 | |
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The whole reason I got Eibachs was to reduce that arch gap. IF I had known prior to the drop to expect "14.5cm" from centre of wheel to arch ... I would have kept my £344.42 and spent them on H&R or Eibach Sportsline springs! Thats the most annoying part. I can't really fault M-style as they were going with Eibach's figures and whats on the tin! Eibach do state that if you have a BMW E92 320i - expect 30-35mm.... and IF YOU HAVE SPORTS SUSPENSION expect a lower reduction in ride height..... When they say a lower reduction in ride height, I didnt think they meant by 3mm |
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07-18-2012, 10:28 AM | #76 | |
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Did anyone measure the existing ride height? If not then the new ride height is/was just guessing what it would be. First rule of changing anything, get a baseline to work from, calculate changes and measure results. HighlandPete |
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07-18-2012, 10:28 AM | #77 | |
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When I quoted the 14.5cm, they guy at the other end was like, "Oh yeh its exactly what it says on my system" |
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07-18-2012, 10:30 AM | #78 | |
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I have a tonne of side on pics on flat ground. |
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07-18-2012, 10:33 AM | #79 | |
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07-18-2012, 10:38 AM | #80 |
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The only problem I can see,and is probably why you get differing heights from some cars to other cars,is that Eibach are only using two particular springs (pro kit).
For the 335D/i and the 330D/325D the front axle load is 990kg. Part number E10-20-014-13-22 For the 330i/325i/320D and 320i the front axle load is 930kg. Part number PN-E10-20-014-12-22 It can't possibly be the case (and no I won't check) that the cars in the two differing groups all weigh the same across the front axle,hence the different ride heights between for example the 335D and 325D.
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07-18-2012, 10:39 AM | #81 | |
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If you have a BMW 3 series M sport, E92, Confirm with Eibach to see if your car gets the necessary drop to reduce the arch gap from a stock M-sport. My car had exactly the same arch gap as other E92 M sports prior to lowering springs. |
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07-18-2012, 11:05 AM | #82 | |
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Also the 14.5cm figure (if really on Eibach's database) can only apply to one model specification for a given spring. BTW, what is the accepted OEM M-sport ride height, when measured wheel arch to wheel centre? HighlandPete |
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07-20-2012, 02:07 PM | #84 |
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07-20-2012, 02:14 PM | #85 |
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Are you mad! Weitech GT's are £608 on the net from the UK thats what Im getting.
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07-20-2012, 02:17 PM | #86 | |
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Mate I'm probably going to go with KW's. Ive heard nothing but good things about them! In my mind they seem like the top dog of the coilover world! (I could obviously be wrong) |
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07-20-2012, 02:35 PM | #87 |
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Weitech's are a good mid range brand and so are BC BR Racing Coilovers for almost the same price tage £600ish... KWs are obviously very good but if you don't intend on racing etc then throwing £1200 + Fitting would truly be an overkill.. go for a mid range brank like BC / Weitechs etc - get the stance you're after and the handling and also save your self the extra cash for something else.... anyways, that's what I'd do if I was (and am!) strapped for cash lol - unless you're going to compete in shows or tracks, paying KW price tag for just a drop and handling increase is a bit much IMHO but it's always each to their own so no flamethrowers here
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07-21-2012, 01:33 PM | #88 |
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I just got some AC Schnitzer springs fitted to my 320D SE. Looks a lot nicer and handles so much better. How are these springs comparable to the Eibach Pro Kit?
I think the ACS springs are made by Eibach, but to the specs/parameters set by ACS. |
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