Help please, car broke down

WickedB · 08-03-2012, 06:56 PM

Ehhh,so I stopped at a red light, it went green I hit the gas & the car will barely move. 2 secs later the gear icon comes up. Torque app shows these 2 codes: P17E5 and P17E1.

Please help, im hoping the Trans isn't f'ed.

..waiting on tow truck sorry if this is in the wrong section..

MattMD · 08-03-2012, 07:12 PM

HPFP?

BMW_Belgier · 08-03-2012, 07:17 PM

Keep us posted if you know more!

I wish you good luck!!!!

WickedB · 08-03-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Low Key OG

HPFP?

No, the engine is running fine... It almost feels like the e-brake is on & it's dragging (but it's not..)

techwhiz · 08-03-2012, 08:18 PM

Tranny..........

WickedB · 08-03-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by techwhiz

Tranny..........

Can you be more specific?

Hunter51092 · 08-03-2012, 09:02 PM

Fan not working? so not cooling for engine ..so its a safety shut down? Happened to me..Fan was unplugged

WickedB · 08-03-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunter51092

Fan not working? so not cooling for engine ..so its a safety shut down? Happened to me..Fan was unplugged

No, fan turns on. Plus the gear icon comes on indicating a transmission issue. Which is consistent with the symptoms. The question is WHAT exactly wrong with the Trans???

Hunter51092 · 08-03-2012, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedB

No, fan turns on. Plus the gear icon comes on indicating a transmission issue. Which is consistent with the symptoms. The question is WHAT exactly wrong with the Trans???

At or Mt?

WickedB · 08-04-2012, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunter51092

At or Mt?

AT.

Hunter51092 · 08-04-2012, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WickedB

AT.

Ive read here on the forums after a while our trany goes bad from using the shifter so much..from D, to Ds to M gears..it wears out? Hope you get it Resolved man! Good luck!

sammy_0559 · 08-04-2012, 12:54 AM

damn sorry

keep us posted tho

hope all goes well

WickedB · 08-04-2012, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hunter51092

Ive read here on the forums after a while our trany goes bad from using the shifter so much..from D, to Ds to M gears..it wears out? Hope you get it Resolved man! Good luck!

Seriously after 73k miles completely stock? 1K miles with JB4...

And what do you mean using the shifter so much? I haven't seen any other examples of this....

Hunter51092 · 08-04-2012, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WickedB

Seriously after 73k miles completely stock? 1K miles with JB4...

And what do you mean using the shifter so much? I haven't seen any other examples of this....

No the shifter precisely but switching into sport & the M Gears ..I read a post on something like that a while back ill try searching for it..

401FlaGATOR · 08-04-2012, 11:14 AM

Researched the error defnitely transmission related..read some posts of possibly mechatronics sleeve being the cause which is better than tranny replacement..lets hope thats what it is..have u ever changed out transmission fluid? Pan? Filter?..just curious..I'm trying to track negative outcomes from people changing out "lifetime fluids" .

WickedB · 08-04-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 401FlaGATOR

Researched the error defnitely transmission related..read some posts of possibly mechatronics sleeve being the cause which is better than tranny replacement..lets hope thats what it is..have u ever changed out transmission fluid? Pan? Filter?..just curious..I'm trying to track negative outcomes from people changing out "lifetime fluids" .

Thanks for looking into it. Yeah I saw something about mechatronics sleeve too, I'm hoping that's it.

And no I've never changed the trans fluid... I actually have only owned the car since March.

WickedB · 08-04-2012, 05:35 PM

Anyone else have this issue w/ similar symptoms??

BabyrayS2k · 08-04-2012, 05:50 PM

BMW = The Unreliable Driving Machine

WickedB · 08-04-2012, 07:30 PM

If the clutch plates are fried I would've noticed slippage before right?

anyone have pricing estimates to get the trans rebuilt?

pruettfan · 08-04-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WickedB

If the clutch plates are fried I would've noticed slippage before right?

anyone have pricing estimates to get the trans rebuilt?

4-5 k likely to get one from BMW. Not sure cost for a rebuild. There is a place online I bought the supplies to do my filter and fluid that specializes in ZF transmissions. A quick search should get you some information. The price will likely vary greatly if it needs a rebuild.

Given it was a sudden issue I am guessing it is more likely one of the electronic silenoids that the computer triggers to shift the transmission internally. You will have to get an expert to look at it. Could be much less than a unit failure. Much more likely a component that can be replaced.

WickedB · 08-06-2012, 01:38 PM

So today I go to my moms house to work on the car + I brought my laptop to pull the codes w/ the JB4 software thinking it may be more accurate; the codes it pulls are: 3100 - low boost mode , 2A87 Outlet-Vanos cam control test, mechanics, and 2F80- Motor shutoff time, plausibility. Didn't see these at all Friday when I pulled the codes w/ the Torque app.

So I start the car, the service engine soon light is still on, BUT I shift into drive and let off the brake and the car starts moving like it normally would! (Friday it wouldn't move... it was like it was trying to start off in 6th gear & couldn't overcome obviously). So I clear the codes, light goes off, and I drive around my city for a few miles and on the freeway... Car is driving fine, and no service engine soon light!

I'm going to get the car on a lift soon and check everything out.. + get the trans fluid and filter changed../ check for loose connections... IDK...

I'm just happy it doesn't look like the trans is totally screwed...

Elliott@DetailAddict · 08-06-2012, 01:41 PM

My bet is your VANOS solenoids are done.

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WickedB Second Lieutenant 15 Rep 290 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Convertible Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Detroit, MI iTrader: (0)	? If the clutch plates are fried I would've noticed slippage before right? anyone have pricing estimates to get the trans rebuilt?
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WickedB Second Lieutenant 15 Rep 290 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Convertible Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Detroit, MI iTrader: (0)	new twist So today I go to my moms house to work on the car + I brought my laptop to pull the codes w/ the JB4 software thinking it may be more accurate; the codes it pulls are: 3100 - low boost mode , 2A87 Outlet-Vanos cam control test, mechanics, and 2F80- Motor shutoff time, plausibility. Didn't see these at all Friday when I pulled the codes w/ the Torque app. So I start the car, the service engine soon light is still on, BUT I shift into drive and let off the brake and the car starts moving like it normally would! (Friday it wouldn't move... it was like it was trying to start off in 6th gear & couldn't overcome obviously). So I clear the codes, light goes off, and I drive around my city for a few miles and on the freeway... Car is driving fine, and no service engine soon light! I'm going to get the car on a lift soon and check everything out.. + get the trans fluid and filter changed../ check for loose connections... IDK... I'm just happy it doesn't look like the trans is totally screwed...
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